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i hope stickers catch on here in america and dont just stay an east asian thing. i think they're a better form of expressing emotion than emoji. the "nice" th

i hope stickers catch on here in america and dont just stay an east asian thing. i think they're a better form of expressing emotion than emoji. the "nice" thing about emojis is that they're standardized, but i don't think anyone realized how hackneyed and played out emojis would get. when i see tears-laughing-emoji these days, i roll my eyes, because i think of dumb instagram memes. in general, they're tiny icons that are kind of lacking in expressiveness to begin with. i've gotten really tired of them, and so have a lot of other people. you start to think they're dumb. stickers don't do that because they convey more complex emotional information. i find with emojis that i always want new and more specific ones, and stickers cater to that perfectly. emojis are this wan, broad "happy" or "sad" emotional marker, which doesn't really convey all that much, while, as discussed in the article, stickers can convey really complex and pithy feelings related to the cultural environment people are living in. this makes them feel like a more honest and human method of communication through emotional pictograph, or whatever.

white-flame 10y ago
The one "standardized" one that always messes up my communication is ":-P". To me, in ASCII, that's not a playful, smiling, stick out your tongue at your friend sort of thing, but rather an exasperated "Just found out I had to refile all my TPS reports. :-P". While the only places I tend to have ascii->emoticon functionality is Skype and Slack, the auto-replacement for that usage never fits the mood, and I never seem to find a good representation of how I interpret ":-P". But more to the point, I think that these stickers have already caught on as what we would call meme images, especially on image boards. They're just not well integrated elsewhere.
- s_kilk 10y ago
  > To me, in ASCII, that's not a playful, smiling, stick out your tongue at your friend sort of thing, but rather an exasperated "Just found out I had to refile all my TPS reports. :-P". I'd wager you're in a pretty small minority there. In fact, I'm struggling to think of a way in which :-P would not be seen as playful. Do you have an example of the kind of facial expression you see in that particular sequence of characters?
  - unimpressive 10y ago
    I have the exact same problem as the grandparent. :P For me it's something like a more muted version of this expression: http://www.nontoxicpestcontrol.com/uploads/2012/06/Poison-Help-Hotline.png http://www.nontoxicpestcontrol.com/uploads/2012/06/Poison-He... Which is a caricature, because this is more of a platonic-ideal expression than one humans actually do. It generally replaces an expression like "Heh." or "Ew." or "Bleh." or general irony. It's rarely playful in the 'child sticking their tongue out' sense. Corpus taken from IRC of me using it: 13:58 <REDACTED> Bringing me up half a standard deviation would take me into loony land. :P 16:03 <REDACTED> What? :P 00:58 <REDACTED> You always cave at the last moment. :P 23:05 <REDACTED> Sometimes I lose faith in my potential. :P 05:55 <REDACTED> You know, normally telling somebody "Oh hey I just had a nightmare about you." would deeply offend them, but I get the impression that is totally within-aesthetic for you. :P
  - kalleboo 10y ago
    I feel the same way as GP, I may have gotten it from early forum emoticon sets where it renders with a variation on this: http://i.imgur.com/Clpg5V4.png http://i.imgur.com/Clpg5V4.png
  - white-flame 10y ago
    I think the real emotive difference is the tongue coming out of the side of the mouth. That's either somebody deep in thought, or wincing aghast at something they have to do. Tongue out the middle of the mouth is the more playful version, directing the tongue at somebody.
- DanBC 10y ago
  The roll-eye emoticon is worse. http://imgur.com/a/wxFNG http://imgur.com/a/wxFNG
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white-flame 10y ago

The one "standardized" one that always messes up my communication is ":-P". To me, in ASCII, that's not a playful, smiling, stick out your tongue at your friend sort of thing, but rather an exasperated "Just found out I had to refile all my TPS reports. :-P". While the only places I tend to have ascii->emoticon functionality is Skype and Slack, the auto-replacement for that usage never fits the mood, and I never seem to find a good representation of how I interpret ":-P". But more to the point, I think that these stickers have already caught on as what we would call meme images, especially on image boards. They're just not well integrated elsewhere.

s_kilk 10y ago
> To me, in ASCII, that's not a playful, smiling, stick out your tongue at your friend sort of thing, but rather an exasperated "Just found out I had to refile all my TPS reports. :-P". I'd wager you're in a pretty small minority there. In fact, I'm struggling to think of a way in which :-P would not be seen as playful. Do you have an example of the kind of facial expression you see in that particular sequence of characters?
- unimpressive 10y ago
  I have the exact same problem as the grandparent. :P For me it's something like a more muted version of this expression: http://www.nontoxicpestcontrol.com/uploads/2012/06/Poison-Help-Hotline.png http://www.nontoxicpestcontrol.com/uploads/2012/06/Poison-He... Which is a caricature, because this is more of a platonic-ideal expression than one humans actually do. It generally replaces an expression like "Heh." or "Ew." or "Bleh." or general irony. It's rarely playful in the 'child sticking their tongue out' sense. Corpus taken from IRC of me using it: 13:58 <REDACTED> Bringing me up half a standard deviation would take me into loony land. :P 16:03 <REDACTED> What? :P 00:58 <REDACTED> You always cave at the last moment. :P 23:05 <REDACTED> Sometimes I lose faith in my potential. :P 05:55 <REDACTED> You know, normally telling somebody "Oh hey I just had a nightmare about you." would deeply offend them, but I get the impression that is totally within-aesthetic for you. :P
- kalleboo 10y ago
  I feel the same way as GP, I may have gotten it from early forum emoticon sets where it renders with a variation on this: http://i.imgur.com/Clpg5V4.png http://i.imgur.com/Clpg5V4.png
- white-flame 10y ago
  I think the real emotive difference is the tongue coming out of the side of the mouth. That's either somebody deep in thought, or wincing aghast at something they have to do. Tongue out the middle of the mouth is the more playful version, directing the tongue at somebody.
DanBC 10y ago
The roll-eye emoticon is worse. http://imgur.com/a/wxFNG http://imgur.com/a/wxFNG
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