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The elephant in the room is that personal mobility is going to undergo a complete redesign in the coming decade as vehicles drive for themselves. This will brin

by drcross 10y ago

The elephant in the room is that personal mobility is going to undergo a complete redesign in the coming decade as vehicles drive for themselves. This will bring about a complete change in usage patterns so doing anything in this space is pre-mature and we should hold off to see how society's requirements change. For example maybe on street parking will become a thing of the past as your self driving Uber goes on it's way to pick up new passengers after it drops you off. Perhaps we'll have more drop-off points like at an airport instead.

ghaff 10y ago
Nothing like that is going to change in the next decade or the decade after that. And very possibly not a few decades even further in the future.
upofadown 10y ago
Self driving cars are still cars. The only thing self driving cars might change is parking. The ability to have cars circulating around with no one in them might actually make things worse.
maxsilver 10y ago
> The elephant in the room is that personal mobility is going to undergo a complete redesign in the coming decade as vehicles drive for themselves. The way the argument is going right now, personal mobility won't get redesigned -- it will get eliminated. Faux-urbanists will continue to fight for (and win) at getting cars more-or-less banned in cities. Cars will continue to get better at zero-emissions and self-driving, but that won't stop people from hating them. Attempts at better public transit will be promoted, but nothing nearly as fast/efficient/convenient as cars currently are. I suspect in the coming decades, people simply won't be allowed to move around as much, and folks will succeed in convincing people that this is "better" for them. Personal mobility will be a concept for history books, like privacy.
- astrange 10y ago
  People will certainly not be able to move around in cars after they use up all the oil. BTW, there are 14 million people in Tokyo (or maybe 40 million) and probably never more than one car per family. They don't seem to have a problem, maybe because they can actually afford to build train lines and don't have commercial zoning over there. http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/29291/if-we-lowered-transit-construction-costs-we-could-build-more-transit/ http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/29291/if-we-lowered...

by drcross 10y ago

ghaff 10y ago

Nothing like that is going to change in the next decade or the decade after that. And very possibly not a few decades even further in the future.

upofadown 10y ago

Self driving cars are still cars. The only thing self driving cars might change is parking. The ability to have cars circulating around with no one in them might actually make things worse.

maxsilver 10y ago

> The elephant in the room is that personal mobility is going to undergo a complete redesign in the coming decade as vehicles drive for themselves. The way the argument is going right now, personal mobility won't get redesigned -- it will get eliminated. Faux-urbanists will continue to fight for (and win) at getting cars more-or-less banned in cities. Cars will continue to get better at zero-emissions and self-driving, but that won't stop people from hating them. Attempts at better public transit will be promoted, but nothing nearly as fast/efficient/convenient as cars currently are. I suspect in the coming decades, people simply won't be allowed to move around as much, and folks will succeed in convincing people that this is "better" for them. Personal mobility will be a concept for history books, like privacy.

astrange 10y ago
People will certainly not be able to move around in cars after they use up all the oil. BTW, there are 14 million people in Tokyo (or maybe 40 million) and probably never more than one car per family. They don't seem to have a problem, maybe because they can actually afford to build train lines and don't have commercial zoning over there. http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/29291/if-we-lowered-transit-construction-costs-we-could-build-more-transit/ http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/29291/if-we-lowered...