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Two major Windows 10 updates planned for next year

21 points by nikbackm 10y ago

tdkl 10y ago
Can't wait for more privacy intrusion, ads and removed options to disable it.
- Synaesthesia 10y ago
  This is unfortunately the price we pay for using proprietary software (and hardware). I use a Mac, but there's no way for me to prevent Apple from doing the exact same thing. They could even hide it completely.
- james-watson 10y ago
  The year of the Linux desktop better be getting closer, because Windows and OSX are both doubling down on their closed source codes and shady snooping practices.
  - rleigh 10y ago
    The "Linux desktop" is unfortunately its own special self-inflicted trainwreck. While I've used it nearly exclusively for nearly two decades, the last five years or so have been little but regressive. It's become a byzantine mess. Just yesterday and today I've spent hours debugging a segfault in VMware. During the course of that investigation, I've found (again) that after all these years, PulseAudio is still incapable of doing its job properly. It's both failed to play the sound its been given without mangling it (possibly a bitrate issue), and then it failed to mix it correctly, with an incoherent staticky jumble as the output. And yet, removing it results in a perfectly functional system! And this is one of the minor issues on a "current" system!
- erdevs 10y ago
  Unfortunately, I think OS X has made it clear that many users are willing to compromise control and flexibility in exchange for a simplified or more polished user experience.
  - WayneBro 10y ago
    Absolutely. And iOS has demonstrated that on an even broader scale. If there is one thing I can't stand about Apple systems, it's the utter lack of options to let me work the way that I want. With iOS it starts with the very first interaction - swiping to unlock. I can't disable it. Android and Windows both let me disable this. I just want `instant on` for certain devices (like 8 inch tablets) that I don't generally carry around in my pocket. But no. The closest I can get with iOS is enabling "Touch ID to unlock" which doesn't work sporadically and has bad timing. The main thing I do on my tablet is web browsing, but web browsing sucks on iOS compared to browsing on my Dell Venue Pro 8 with full Chrome and all the extensions that I want. I really wish that I could get into using mobile apps, but they'll never replace the web for me and I just can't deal with the 2nd rate web browsing in iOS which is directly caused by Apple's policies.
sdegutis 10y ago
When will WSL land? I'm teaching my children how to program and it would be handy to have more Linux tooling available.
- ivraatiems 10y ago
  You can get the beta Windows Subsystem for Linux right now by enabling Developer Mode on your computer and downloading it.
  - sdegutis 10y ago
    Right but I hear it's super crashy, I'm waiting until it's stable for my kids to use.
    - tejinderss 10y ago
      I have installed the usual stuff for python web development (lxml, pillow, django) without any crash. It's quite stable for python development
    - kyriakos 10y ago
      haven't managed to crash it yet. it seems stable for daily use.
    - qudat 10y ago
      I have nothing but bad things to say about bash on Windows. The windows insider program forces what seems like complete reinstalls on a regular basis, causing serious interruptions and long wait times to get back to ground zero. I found opting into this program to be confusing, turning on the subsystem is classic windows obscurity, traversing multiple nested uis to check one single box. When you turn on the insider program it literally does nothing until you reboot it a couple of times. It gave zero indication that it was actually going to update my system and then bam, it starts reinstalling your os. The subsystem itself has serious problems like being able to get a list of network interfaces which makes running a node server impossible. https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-console-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windo/suggestions/13383789-enable-network-interface-enumeraration?tracking_code=c77448b1e044270c00e22890efea712f https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-con... I can see why it hasn't made mainstream yet, to me it seems no where close to ready. Running a VM is still the way to go it seems on windows.

21 points by nikbackm 10y ago

tdkl 10y ago

Can't wait for more privacy intrusion, ads and removed options to disable it.

Synaesthesia 10y ago
This is unfortunately the price we pay for using proprietary software (and hardware). I use a Mac, but there's no way for me to prevent Apple from doing the exact same thing. They could even hide it completely.
james-watson 10y ago
The year of the Linux desktop better be getting closer, because Windows and OSX are both doubling down on their closed source codes and shady snooping practices.
- rleigh 10y ago
  The "Linux desktop" is unfortunately its own special self-inflicted trainwreck. While I've used it nearly exclusively for nearly two decades, the last five years or so have been little but regressive. It's become a byzantine mess. Just yesterday and today I've spent hours debugging a segfault in VMware. During the course of that investigation, I've found (again) that after all these years, PulseAudio is still incapable of doing its job properly. It's both failed to play the sound its been given without mangling it (possibly a bitrate issue), and then it failed to mix it correctly, with an incoherent staticky jumble as the output. And yet, removing it results in a perfectly functional system! And this is one of the minor issues on a "current" system!
erdevs 10y ago
Unfortunately, I think OS X has made it clear that many users are willing to compromise control and flexibility in exchange for a simplified or more polished user experience.
- WayneBro 10y ago
  Absolutely. And iOS has demonstrated that on an even broader scale. If there is one thing I can't stand about Apple systems, it's the utter lack of options to let me work the way that I want. With iOS it starts with the very first interaction - swiping to unlock. I can't disable it. Android and Windows both let me disable this. I just want `instant on` for certain devices (like 8 inch tablets) that I don't generally carry around in my pocket. But no. The closest I can get with iOS is enabling "Touch ID to unlock" which doesn't work sporadically and has bad timing. The main thing I do on my tablet is web browsing, but web browsing sucks on iOS compared to browsing on my Dell Venue Pro 8 with full Chrome and all the extensions that I want. I really wish that I could get into using mobile apps, but they'll never replace the web for me and I just can't deal with the 2nd rate web browsing in iOS which is directly caused by Apple's policies.

sdegutis 10y ago

When will WSL land? I'm teaching my children how to program and it would be handy to have more Linux tooling available.

ivraatiems 10y ago
You can get the beta Windows Subsystem for Linux right now by enabling Developer Mode on your computer and downloading it.
- sdegutis 10y ago
  Right but I hear it's super crashy, I'm waiting until it's stable for my kids to use.
  - tejinderss 10y ago
    I have installed the usual stuff for python web development (lxml, pillow, django) without any crash. It's quite stable for python development
  - kyriakos 10y ago
    haven't managed to crash it yet. it seems stable for daily use.
  - qudat 10y ago
    I have nothing but bad things to say about bash on Windows. The windows insider program forces what seems like complete reinstalls on a regular basis, causing serious interruptions and long wait times to get back to ground zero. I found opting into this program to be confusing, turning on the subsystem is classic windows obscurity, traversing multiple nested uis to check one single box. When you turn on the insider program it literally does nothing until you reboot it a couple of times. It gave zero indication that it was actually going to update my system and then bam, it starts reinstalling your os. The subsystem itself has serious problems like being able to get a list of network interfaces which makes running a node server impossible. https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-console-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windo/suggestions/13383789-enable-network-interface-enumeraration?tracking_code=c77448b1e044270c00e22890efea712f https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-con... I can see why it hasn't made mainstream yet, to me it seems no where close to ready. Running a VM is still the way to go it seems on windows.