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I thought the opposite. Google's UI is bewildering, nothing makes logical sense with how its put together. Disjointed pieces. Poor documentation. Incomplete

by rstupek 10y ago

I thought the opposite. Google's UI is bewildering, nothing makes logical sense with how its put together. Disjointed pieces. Poor documentation. Incomplete API samples that didn't compile even for its own language (golang)

tracker1 10y ago
I think they all tend to be a little like that... I'm thinking compose.io is in a good position to offer dbaas on the various cloud solutions, docker cloud for app management... Could be the best of both worlds there... gitlab's work for CI/CD is interesting as well.
eeeeeeeeeeeee 10y ago
Agreed. And this isn't the first Google interface that I find completely unintuitive. My first foray into the Google docs was trying to get oauth working. The developer console is confusing and not laid out well. Documentation can sometimes point you in one direction, only to realize you're about to implement something that will be end-of-life in months. AWS Console is not perfect, but IMO, it's much more clear where I need to go to find things, even without reading a single piece of documentation. And I've rarely had issues with AWS documentation not being clear and correct.
- vacri 10y ago
  I only use the Google Apps for Business from Teh Goog, and while it's nice, the documentation is hard to navigate and not so hot. I expect a little bit of bitrot from such large product lines in the documentation so I understand a bit of staleness, but finding the right documentation and then trying to skim through it... it's frustrating and poorly laid-out in Google, in my opinion. Maybe GCE docs are better, though.
Twirrim 10y ago
Agreed. I was moving my personal VPS from Linode earlier this year (after way too many security incidents from them). My first port of call was GCE, but in the end the UI just annoyed me. It took a while to wrap my head around and then was still confusing in various ways. I'm not going to write a tool to interact with an API for a once in a blue moon thing like "give me a server". I looked at AWS and Azure as well, and their consoles aren't much better (I think I preferred Azure's one, if anything) In the end I went with Digital Ocean and had a server up and running in barely a few minutes, much quicker and easier.

by rstupek 10y ago

tracker1 10y ago

I think they all tend to be a little like that... I'm thinking compose.io is in a good position to offer dbaas on the various cloud solutions, docker cloud for app management... Could be the best of both worlds there... gitlab's work for CI/CD is interesting as well.

eeeeeeeeeeeee 10y ago

Agreed. And this isn't the first Google interface that I find completely unintuitive. My first foray into the Google docs was trying to get oauth working. The developer console is confusing and not laid out well. Documentation can sometimes point you in one direction, only to realize you're about to implement something that will be end-of-life in months. AWS Console is not perfect, but IMO, it's much more clear where I need to go to find things, even without reading a single piece of documentation. And I've rarely had issues with AWS documentation not being clear and correct.

vacri 10y ago
I only use the Google Apps for Business from Teh Goog, and while it's nice, the documentation is hard to navigate and not so hot. I expect a little bit of bitrot from such large product lines in the documentation so I understand a bit of staleness, but finding the right documentation and then trying to skim through it... it's frustrating and poorly laid-out in Google, in my opinion. Maybe GCE docs are better, though.

Twirrim 10y ago

Agreed. I was moving my personal VPS from Linode earlier this year (after way too many security incidents from them). My first port of call was GCE, but in the end the UI just annoyed me. It took a while to wrap my head around and then was still confusing in various ways. I'm not going to write a tool to interact with an API for a once in a blue moon thing like "give me a server". I looked at AWS and Azure as well, and their consoles aren't much better (I think I preferred Azure's one, if anything) In the end I went with Digital Ocean and had a server up and running in barely a few minutes, much quicker and easier.