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Sure, but isn't that a selling point of GCP? If GCP can bring 80% of the benefits of AWS at a reasonable price for shops without the requirement of deep AWS &

Sure, but isn't that a selling point of GCP? If GCP can bring 80% of the benefits of AWS at a reasonable price for shops without the requirement of deep AWS & devops expertise, isn't that a really excellent place to occupy? People here often seem to have an implicit assumption that AWS's complexity is either inevitable or inherently of value. I'd point to Azure as another alternative rejection of that viewpoint that serves a wider audience of technical skill levels than GCP. And honestly, I really like working with Azure. I've built a few businesses on AWS now, and I know and trust it. But it has a ton of infuriating features and many many things they've promised have been delayed years. I'm not opposed to a new CSP at all. Why would anyone be?

Johnny555 10y ago
The problem with a solution that covers 80% of your use case is that when you need something out of that remaining 20%, you either need to build it yourself or migrate. AWS IAM policies are a good example - yes they are complicated and hard to navigate, but when you need to do complicated grants of access to your resources, then you'll appreciate the complication.
- sjellis 10y ago
  That assumes that that you will need to do complicated things, which I suspect depends on your organization. If you are part of a larger business with an established system administration function, then the flexibility of AWS is probably appealing, because you can transpose your existing set-ups and practices on to it. For smaller organizations, particularly new "cloud-native" ones that may have never owned a server and might not have big administration teams, AWS looks like a bad fit. Learning AWS is now more complicated and a bigger time investment than any technology that I've encountered for years. We operations people are used to doing a lot of learning up-front for gnarly and sometimes old tech, but it's not how developers engage with new platforms today. If GCP can deliver the 80% without the huge time investment that mastering AWS now requires then over time, it's going to win the green-field projects.

Johnny555 10y ago

The problem with a solution that covers 80% of your use case is that when you need something out of that remaining 20%, you either need to build it yourself or migrate. AWS IAM policies are a good example - yes they are complicated and hard to navigate, but when you need to do complicated grants of access to your resources, then you'll appreciate the complication.

sjellis 10y ago
That assumes that that you will need to do complicated things, which I suspect depends on your organization. If you are part of a larger business with an established system administration function, then the flexibility of AWS is probably appealing, because you can transpose your existing set-ups and practices on to it. For smaller organizations, particularly new "cloud-native" ones that may have never owned a server and might not have big administration teams, AWS looks like a bad fit. Learning AWS is now more complicated and a bigger time investment than any technology that I've encountered for years. We operations people are used to doing a lot of learning up-front for gnarly and sometimes old tech, but it's not how developers engage with new platforms today. If GCP can deliver the 80% without the huge time investment that mastering AWS now requires then over time, it's going to win the green-field projects.