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> The culture was oppressive towards damned near everyone who wasn't of the highest class. Yes, yes, "all lives matter". It doesn't change the fact that given
by mjmsmith 10y ago
> The culture was oppressive towards damned near everyone who wasn't of the highest class.
Yes, yes, "all lives matter". It doesn't change the fact that given a man and woman of the same class, it was generally more oppressive to the woman, Biblical queen exemptions notwithstanding.
- adekok 10y ago> It doesn't change the fact that given a man and woman of the same class, it was generally more oppressive to the woman, Please define "oppressive"... using either gender neutral measurements, or measurements which balance comparisons against both genders. As a case in point, I can cherry-pick the following facts, which are all true: * women live longer than men * more money is spent on womens health care than mens health care * more men die in violence and wars than women * about 80% of homeless are men * more men are mentally ill than women etc. Does that mean that men are "oppressed"? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm poking this subject with a sharp stick in order to question our assumptions. Someone says "women are oppressed", and everyone nods in agreement. OK... what does that mean? Are the stats cherry-picked like I did above? Maybe sometimes women have it better than men, and sometimes they have it worse?
- mjmsmith 10y agoFor the majority of women in most of history, oppressed means that your life is just as difficult as a random man of the same class, plus he might rape you. I'm done here.
- adekok 10y agoI'm looking for quantitative measurements of "difficulty". You've admitted you don't have them, and are unwilling to look for them.