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The ESP* sucks power, which means bigger PSU, or in the case of lightbulbs, no config support when the light switch is off. Making a PSU that is both small and

The ESP* sucks power, which means bigger PSU, or in the case of lightbulbs, no config support when the light switch is off. Making a PSU that is both small and efficient for both low current draw and high is rather hard. Protocol design is trivial for something like a light bulb, compared to the cost of designing the device, and making the scalable backend (and no XMPP is no shortcut for that. I know how wide the IoT field is. I also know the sheer volume of shite that is being produced. Most of the Wifi products will die a horrid death. replaced by something better and more suitable to low power usage. Failing that something more secure, after a rash of home fires caused by a terribly insecure system that was able to be turned off and on again repeatedly until it caught fire.

0xdeadbeefbabe 10y ago
Would you suppose it will be something like bluetooth keyboards getting replaced by a usb dongle that talks to your keyboard using some other radio protocol that isn't bluetooth?
- KaiserPro 10y ago
  There is nothing inherently wrong with bluetooth. So long as you are prepared to put work in over the top to handle security. Bluetooth LE has a reasonable power profile, and the advantage of being about to interop with lots of other things.
nitrogen 10y ago
As someone who started a company around IoT before people were really calling it that, I agree with you that the IoT market is being polluted with crap. But I think there is room for multiple service tiers for IoT devices. For example, some systems and devices need frequent, low-latency updates (such as lights that quickly and smoothly change colors in response to events), others need low latency but only a few packets per second (a light that only switches on and off), etc. So unless there is a low-power protocol that meets all those needs, I don't think we'll eliminate all of them but one.

0xdeadbeefbabe 10y ago

Would you suppose it will be something like bluetooth keyboards getting replaced by a usb dongle that talks to your keyboard using some other radio protocol that isn't bluetooth?

KaiserPro 10y ago
There is nothing inherently wrong with bluetooth. So long as you are prepared to put work in over the top to handle security. Bluetooth LE has a reasonable power profile, and the advantage of being about to interop with lots of other things.

nitrogen 10y ago

As someone who started a company around IoT before people were really calling it that, I agree with you that the IoT market is being polluted with crap. But I think there is room for multiple service tiers for IoT devices. For example, some systems and devices need frequent, low-latency updates (such as lights that quickly and smoothly change colors in response to events), others need low latency but only a few packets per second (a light that only switches on and off), etc. So unless there is a low-power protocol that meets all those needs, I don't think we'll eliminate all of them but one.