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I stopped using Github when they hired blatant racists as part of their 'social outreach' team. The infestation of politically-correct politics drives talent th

by Nadya 10y ago

I stopped using Github when they hired blatant racists as part of their 'social outreach' team. The infestation of politically-correct politics drives talent that can't be bothered with such cruft away. I was there to code. Not worry about if I hurt some oversensitive person's feelings for referring to master/slave copies.

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matthewmacleod 10y ago
I wrote this elsewhere so I won't repeat it here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12232883 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12232883) We're all on Github to write code, but I'd argue you are dangerously close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater there. It seems perfectly reasonable for someone to say "hey, this term you use might be offensive/makes me uncomfortable, please consider changing it." It's also perfectly legitimate for you to say "I don't want to do that". I just kind of wish that everyone would be a little less sensitive about the prospect of other people being offended by things that they are not. Political correctness, in the sense of "try not to say things that are offensive" sense, is probably not the worst idea in the world!
- Nadya 10y ago
  >It's also perfectly legitimate for you to say "I don't want to do that". At which point you get harassed by a mob, spammed with issues that clutter up your project, and get emailed death threats. Github is allowed, of course, to choose which projects they decide to host. Demanding the removal of the word "retards" [0] or a project would be shut down drove at least one developer away. So no - that isn't "perfectly legitimate" for that community. "I don't want to do that" is not good enough. [0] https://github.com/nixxquality/WebMConverter/commit/9fde8f333984a6588f80f710cb87467e83f1849a https://github.com/nixxquality/WebMConverter/commit/9fde8f33...
- mildbow 10y ago
  It's "the worst idea in the world" because it perpetuates the idea that certain words or thoughts are taboo. This doesn't mean people stop having them. This just means that they are labelled/judged if they have them. Guess what happens then? People keep it to themselves. And then they vote for Trump. Why? Because, he is a ridiculous loudmouth who is very out of touch with most of reality. But, he doesn't feel the need to be censored. And to people who haven't spoken out due to fear of reprisal, this is an admiral characteristic. He gives them validation. So yeah, political correctness is retarded.

by Nadya 10y ago

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matthewmacleod 10y ago

I wrote this elsewhere so I won't repeat it here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12232883 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12232883) We're all on Github to write code, but I'd argue you are dangerously close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater there. It seems perfectly reasonable for someone to say "hey, this term you use might be offensive/makes me uncomfortable, please consider changing it." It's also perfectly legitimate for you to say "I don't want to do that". I just kind of wish that everyone would be a little less sensitive about the prospect of other people being offended by things that they are not. Political correctness, in the sense of "try not to say things that are offensive" sense, is probably not the worst idea in the world!

Nadya 10y ago
>It's also perfectly legitimate for you to say "I don't want to do that". At which point you get harassed by a mob, spammed with issues that clutter up your project, and get emailed death threats. Github is allowed, of course, to choose which projects they decide to host. Demanding the removal of the word "retards" [0] or a project would be shut down drove at least one developer away. So no - that isn't "perfectly legitimate" for that community. "I don't want to do that" is not good enough. [0] https://github.com/nixxquality/WebMConverter/commit/9fde8f333984a6588f80f710cb87467e83f1849a https://github.com/nixxquality/WebMConverter/commit/9fde8f33...
mildbow 10y ago
It's "the worst idea in the world" because it perpetuates the idea that certain words or thoughts are taboo. This doesn't mean people stop having them. This just means that they are labelled/judged if they have them. Guess what happens then? People keep it to themselves. And then they vote for Trump. Why? Because, he is a ridiculous loudmouth who is very out of touch with most of reality. But, he doesn't feel the need to be censored. And to people who haven't spoken out due to fear of reprisal, this is an admiral characteristic. He gives them validation. So yeah, political correctness is retarded.