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Torrents are filling the gap where the traditional media companies are still failing. Here in NZ there are 7 different streaming services that I can immediately

Torrents are filling the gap where the traditional media companies are still failing. Here in NZ there are 7 different streaming services that I can immediately think of, each with exclusive rights to some content. I'm not paying $80 a month to sign up to each so I can watch their popular "exclusive" show they own the rights to. If the rights-holders made their content accessible and at a reasonable price to consumers, torrents would disappear.

provoc 10y ago
So your excuse for this theft of service is that you simply don't want to pay? It's lucky for you that prosecuting torrent users is so rare, as I really can't see that one holding up in court. If you can't afford it, don't steal it. It's as simple as that.
- hueving 10y ago
  Theft is a generous term for something that isn't rivalrous.
  - provoc 10y ago
    If you examine both its common and legal connotations, theft isn't so narrowly defined as to preclude nonrivalrous goods. This really is a common misconception of the word, often played up by the "copyright infringement is not theft" crowd to attempt to deny the consequences of their actions.
- vmateixeira 10y ago
  Despite 'stealing' or not, if someone is not willing to pay for some company services, that company has failed.
- kagamine 10y ago
  > theft of service is that you simply don't want to pay Prices in Norwegian kroner (NOK) Apple Music 99 / 149 Spotify Prem. 99 iTunes Movies 49 to rent 24 hours 159 to buy (~same as DVD in supermarket) Netflix 79 99 129 HD? x y y Nr screens 1 2 4 I don't know how much these services think I can spend on entertainment every month, they are all priced as though they are the only service in the market and like I have nothing else I want to spend money on. The film prices on iTunes are mental, I can buy a DVD from as little as kr79, so 49 to rent one seems excessive (also aware that Apple are not solely responsible for setting prices here). As an anime fan too, torrenting is literally the only way to obtain content. THE ONLY WAY. There are 2 good free streaming sites I can think of that are not blocked in my region, and one of them daisuki.net doesn't support flash on Linux (groan) so I have to use the 'wrong' PC at home for that. The state of legal streaming and content availability was a laughable disaster 5+ years ago. Now it's a case of being indignant and feeling righteous about giving these idiots the middle finger. The entertainment distributors are their own worst enemy.
  - pcf 10y ago
    The only way digitally, you mean? Because you can still buy physical DVD's and Blu-Ray's, right?
    - witty_username 10y ago
      Shipping would be expensive though.
      - ewar-woowar 10y ago
        Shipping and not being able to preview any of the series makes buying everything a very expensive lottery. Who buys random series of TV shows they have never seen even a single episode of?
    - DanBC 10y ago
      DVDs and Blurays are region locked. I can buy the DVD, but I'm not allowed by law to modify my DVD player to change it from my current region to a region free device. This is one of the problems with copyright laws - creeping scope to make normal sensible actions illegal. Why is it illegal for me to modify my DVD player to play a DVD I've had to import (at great personal expense) and that is not available (and probably won't ever be available) in my region? There's a bunch of these.
softawre 10y ago
Don't most people pay that much for entertainment though, through their cable bill?

provoc 10y ago

So your excuse for this theft of service is that you simply don't want to pay? It's lucky for you that prosecuting torrent users is so rare, as I really can't see that one holding up in court. If you can't afford it, don't steal it. It's as simple as that.

hueving 10y ago
Theft is a generous term for something that isn't rivalrous.
- provoc 10y ago
  If you examine both its common and legal connotations, theft isn't so narrowly defined as to preclude nonrivalrous goods. This really is a common misconception of the word, often played up by the "copyright infringement is not theft" crowd to attempt to deny the consequences of their actions.
vmateixeira 10y ago
Despite 'stealing' or not, if someone is not willing to pay for some company services, that company has failed.
kagamine 10y ago
> theft of service is that you simply don't want to pay Prices in Norwegian kroner (NOK) Apple Music 99 / 149 Spotify Prem. 99 iTunes Movies 49 to rent 24 hours 159 to buy (~same as DVD in supermarket) Netflix 79 99 129 HD? x y y Nr screens 1 2 4 I don't know how much these services think I can spend on entertainment every month, they are all priced as though they are the only service in the market and like I have nothing else I want to spend money on. The film prices on iTunes are mental, I can buy a DVD from as little as kr79, so 49 to rent one seems excessive (also aware that Apple are not solely responsible for setting prices here). As an anime fan too, torrenting is literally the only way to obtain content. THE ONLY WAY. There are 2 good free streaming sites I can think of that are not blocked in my region, and one of them daisuki.net doesn't support flash on Linux (groan) so I have to use the 'wrong' PC at home for that. The state of legal streaming and content availability was a laughable disaster 5+ years ago. Now it's a case of being indignant and feeling righteous about giving these idiots the middle finger. The entertainment distributors are their own worst enemy.
- pcf 10y ago
  The only way digitally, you mean? Because you can still buy physical DVD's and Blu-Ray's, right?
  - witty_username 10y ago
    Shipping would be expensive though.
    - ewar-woowar 10y ago
      Shipping and not being able to preview any of the series makes buying everything a very expensive lottery. Who buys random series of TV shows they have never seen even a single episode of?
  - DanBC 10y ago
    DVDs and Blurays are region locked. I can buy the DVD, but I'm not allowed by law to modify my DVD player to change it from my current region to a region free device. This is one of the problems with copyright laws - creeping scope to make normal sensible actions illegal. Why is it illegal for me to modify my DVD player to play a DVD I've had to import (at great personal expense) and that is not available (and probably won't ever be available) in my region? There's a bunch of these.

softawre 10y ago

Don't most people pay that much for entertainment though, through their cable bill?