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As a Brazilian I can say this article is full of misinformation regarding current political events. The "coup" allegations are nothing but ridiculous. What kin

As a Brazilian I can say this article is full of misinformation regarding current political events. The "coup" allegations are nothing but ridiculous. What kind of coups is done with ample defense opportunity and full validation of the Supreme Court? There's nothing flimsy about the fiscal fraud committed by the soon to be former president. And while this is not being considered for the impeachment process (because it happened after it had began), she is under investigation for obstruction of justice (for nominating Lula a minister in the hopes of escaping the corruption investigations), and people who worked for her party and who are now in jail have confirmed she was fully aware of the corruption scheme and money laundering in the form of campaign donations. It's funny because in 92 the same politicians who are now claiming a coup is going on have voted in favor of impeachment on much lighter claims against the president at the time (including the same nonsense speeches as house members voted in congress). The part about the outrage for the the end of the Ministry of Culture shows a lot of what's wrong with Brazil: everyone wants their own government tit to suck from. As if culture can be created by government bureocrats. No wonder the previous government's cabinet had 38 ministries, including the Ministry of Fishing. At least it didn't come to a point where we had a Ministry of Happiness like in Venezuela.

caiob 10y ago
> _What kind of coups is done with ample defense opportunity and full validation of the Supreme Court?_ Ermmm.. defense opportunity? A totally partisan-biased Supreme Court does not leave much for a defense strategy. That's like putting Benghazi to be judged by the GOP. >_It's funny because in 92 the same politicians who are now claiming a coup is going on have voted in favor of impeachment_ Maybe because they're being consistent on their stances?
- andrenth 10y ago
  > Ermmm.. defense opportunity? Yes. Multiple opportunities for the defense to expose its views and interview witnesses, both in congress and senate. > A totally partisan-biased Supreme Court The majority of the current Supreme Court has been appointed by in the Lula and Dilma governments and are strongly tied to their party, including a former lawyer of a party member who is now in jail. If there's any bias, it's in favor of the accused.
  - meira 10y ago
    The defense had N opportunities to proof (and they proved) that Rousseff didn't commit any crime. But it doesn't matter, because it's not a real judgement. It's a theatrical judgement for stupid guys like you to have a justificativa. But yeah, no stupid personagens believe it. It was a coup. And I should have Said, in the beginning, first thing: Temer out.
    - andrenth 10y ago
      Thanks for the ad hominem, it shows the depth of your arguments. LOL at "Temer out". This is really all that you people know how to do, right? "Itamar out", "FHC out", "Temer out"... It's only a coup attempt when it turns against you.
      - woliveirajr 10y ago
        :-) there's some argument that could be used, but people don't know enough to use then except for the "that's a coup", "temer out" or any other crying... Your comments, otoh, are well done. Voted up
      - woliveirajr 10y ago
        :-) there's some argument that could be used, but people don't know enough to use then except for the "that's a coup", "temer out" or any other crying... Your comments, otoh, are well done. Voted up
- ucaetano 10y ago
  The impeachment process isn't judged by the Supreme Court.
  - andrenth 10y ago
    There were multuple appeals to the Supreme Court, which has always let the process continue. And in senate, the president of the Supreme Court leads the final judgement.
    - ucaetano 10y ago
      Those are recourses claiming the process itself is wrong, but the impeachment isn't judged by the Supreme Court. And remember, 8 of the 11 judges were appointed by Dilma's party. So if you'd expect bias, it would be towards supporting Dilma.
      - andrenth 10y ago
        Yep, that's what I said above.
ittekimasu 10y ago
> everyone wants their own government tit to suck from. That is the general schema by which statist ("socialist") regimes hang on to power... that is until they have inflated themselves out of existence.
- hackernews2000 10y ago
  Yet people are conditioned in schools to love the state and hate the "all evil" capitalism. In Brazil it's political suicide to suggest cutting government expenses such as bloated programs and agencies (even though they are known to be infested by corruption). People are hit hard by our extremely high taxes but don't make the connection to the government inefficacy and corruption. They keep asking for more government services and programs. People hate our postal service (which has a monopoly on some sorts of deliveries), yet freak out at the idea of opening it to the free market. The current president attempted to end the "ministry of culture" (which basically is a money gateway from our pockets to already-rich artists with political connections) and replace it with a smaller department. Teachers and university students brainwashed by the state-worshiping religion kept protesting until the president gave up and bought the ministry back. That has been happening to all his attempts at fixing things.
  - brbrodude 10y ago
    Perfect reading and reproduction of the market-fundamentalist-pamphlet! Who are you to call anyone brainwashed? Talking in truisms, uncharitable to any disagreeing point of view, turning anyone who opposes your points of view into caricatures. Give me a break.
    - meira 10y ago
      It's funny how idiots here in Brazil thinks that the neoliberalism BS is a serious econômica thesis. Parent post probably studied in a federal university, but hates "big bad state".
      - brbrodude 10y ago
meira 10y ago
I like how in Brazil the ones that really suck in government tits are the riches, but their sons keep coming here in HN to Tell that the problema is the expending with the poors.
- brguy 10y ago
  I didn't get this from the parent post at all. How is giving taxpayer money to rich artists spending with the poor?
meira 10y ago
I like how in Brazil the ones that really suck in Brazil tits are the riches, but their sons keep coming here in HN to Tell that the problema is the expending with the poors.

caiob 10y ago

> _What kind of coups is done with ample defense opportunity and full validation of the Supreme Court?_ Ermmm.. defense opportunity? A totally partisan-biased Supreme Court does not leave much for a defense strategy. That's like putting Benghazi to be judged by the GOP. >_It's funny because in 92 the same politicians who are now claiming a coup is going on have voted in favor of impeachment_ Maybe because they're being consistent on their stances?

andrenth 10y ago
> Ermmm.. defense opportunity? Yes. Multiple opportunities for the defense to expose its views and interview witnesses, both in congress and senate. > A totally partisan-biased Supreme Court The majority of the current Supreme Court has been appointed by in the Lula and Dilma governments and are strongly tied to their party, including a former lawyer of a party member who is now in jail. If there's any bias, it's in favor of the accused.
- meira 10y ago
  The defense had N opportunities to proof (and they proved) that Rousseff didn't commit any crime. But it doesn't matter, because it's not a real judgement. It's a theatrical judgement for stupid guys like you to have a justificativa. But yeah, no stupid personagens believe it. It was a coup. And I should have Said, in the beginning, first thing: Temer out.
  - andrenth 10y ago
    Thanks for the ad hominem, it shows the depth of your arguments. LOL at "Temer out". This is really all that you people know how to do, right? "Itamar out", "FHC out", "Temer out"... It's only a coup attempt when it turns against you.
    - woliveirajr 10y ago
      :-) there's some argument that could be used, but people don't know enough to use then except for the "that's a coup", "temer out" or any other crying... Your comments, otoh, are well done. Voted up
    - woliveirajr 10y ago
      :-) there's some argument that could be used, but people don't know enough to use then except for the "that's a coup", "temer out" or any other crying... Your comments, otoh, are well done. Voted up
ucaetano 10y ago
The impeachment process isn't judged by the Supreme Court.
- andrenth 10y ago
  There were multuple appeals to the Supreme Court, which has always let the process continue. And in senate, the president of the Supreme Court leads the final judgement.
  - ucaetano 10y ago
    Those are recourses claiming the process itself is wrong, but the impeachment isn't judged by the Supreme Court. And remember, 8 of the 11 judges were appointed by Dilma's party. So if you'd expect bias, it would be towards supporting Dilma.
    - andrenth 10y ago
      Yep, that's what I said above.

ittekimasu 10y ago

> everyone wants their own government tit to suck from. That is the general schema by which statist ("socialist") regimes hang on to power... that is until they have inflated themselves out of existence.

hackernews2000 10y ago
Yet people are conditioned in schools to love the state and hate the "all evil" capitalism. In Brazil it's political suicide to suggest cutting government expenses such as bloated programs and agencies (even though they are known to be infested by corruption). People are hit hard by our extremely high taxes but don't make the connection to the government inefficacy and corruption. They keep asking for more government services and programs. People hate our postal service (which has a monopoly on some sorts of deliveries), yet freak out at the idea of opening it to the free market. The current president attempted to end the "ministry of culture" (which basically is a money gateway from our pockets to already-rich artists with political connections) and replace it with a smaller department. Teachers and university students brainwashed by the state-worshiping religion kept protesting until the president gave up and bought the ministry back. That has been happening to all his attempts at fixing things.
- brbrodude 10y ago
  Perfect reading and reproduction of the market-fundamentalist-pamphlet! Who are you to call anyone brainwashed? Talking in truisms, uncharitable to any disagreeing point of view, turning anyone who opposes your points of view into caricatures. Give me a break.
  - meira 10y ago
    It's funny how idiots here in Brazil thinks that the neoliberalism BS is a serious econômica thesis. Parent post probably studied in a federal university, but hates "big bad state".
    - brbrodude 10y ago

meira 10y ago

I like how in Brazil the ones that really suck in government tits are the riches, but their sons keep coming here in HN to Tell that the problema is the expending with the poors.

brguy 10y ago
I didn't get this from the parent post at all. How is giving taxpayer money to rich artists spending with the poor?

meira 10y ago

I like how in Brazil the ones that really suck in Brazil tits are the riches, but their sons keep coming here in HN to Tell that the problema is the expending with the poors.