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I've actually found it works a lot better if both people just allow the contentious statements. Just let each person say, "Oh that's ridiculous because..." and
by Snargorf 10y ago
I've actually found it works a lot better if both people just allow the contentious statements. Just let each person say, "Oh that's ridiculous because..." and the other replies with "You're totally missing this point..." Even if people raise their voice or scoff, it's fine. The key is to just keep going.
If you go on long enough, the points do start sinking in.
Too many people assume that acrimony means that the discussion must end immediately. But that's not true at all. It's exceptionally hard, sometimes, to meet clashing beliefs with entirely soft voices and polite manners. You don't have to suppress everything you want to say. You can let it out. So can the other person. It's good. (Obviously it shouldn't raise to a degree where people are screaming continuously or acting violent).
Maturity doesn't just mean always speaking softly. It can also mean being able to make and reject points forcefully, and not wilt like a delicate flower if the other person does the same.
The real key is that people need to not be so delicate. Accept the natural difficulties of clashing belief systems. Just stick in there, let the acrimony happen, don't give up. Eventually - 10 or 20 or 30 minutes later - you'll get to something meaningful simply because there's no way to talk that long without both people having a lot of time to make real points.
- smcl 10y agoI hit "vouch" here as your post was marked as "Dead" even though it was pretty reasonable. I don't necessarily agree that people should be so eager to lock horns on contentious issues, but you're certainly not saying anything that should be hidden or censored or anything.
- Snargorf 10y agoThanks. It seems I have been censored, however. My new posts no longer show up when I'm logged out. No reason given. I also can't create another account. My guess is it's because I said IQ was hereditary? Hard to tell which of my posts violated which unwritten rule. I'm very disappointed at the blatant exercise of power to silence me here. I said nothing against any individual, thought through my points, and have always been civil. And the under-handed shadowban methodology - ugh. I was hoping for better from HN.