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That's kind of the point. People (investors) think that in the not-so-distant future Tesla will be much bigger than Renault, and are extremely confident in this
by BookmarkSaver 10y ago
That's kind of the point. People (investors) think that in the not-so-distant future Tesla will be much bigger than Renault, and are extremely confident in this. It doesn't really matter to investors where Tesla is right now except as a mechanism to build extrapolations. If you are extremely confident that in 10 years Tesla will be twice the size of Renault, then you need to buy buy buy right now before other people realize it.
Renault's size isn't expected to change significantly over the next decade. Tesla's is. This means that if you own Tesla shares now, 10 years later they are going to be worth a massive amount because Tesla will be much bigger than Renault, so the price naturally rises to that expectation, only abetted by the possibility that Tesla collapses.
It isn't about where the company is at the moment. It is about where you think the company will be in "the future" (at whatever point that is relevant to you) reduced by the probability that you think they will fail (and most people think that chance is tiny). So when Tesla starts making a profit, its market cap probably won't have grown that much, because it was expected behavior priced into today's valuation.
- pakitan 10y agoIf I think something will be worth $100 in 10 years I won't be paying $100 for it today. That's not how finance works. There is a risk and interest premium. Sure, if you think the risk is zero, then yes, Tesla may not be overvalued. But that's exactly my point - the risk is not zero. Neither for Tesla, nor for any other company.
- eloff 10y agoYes but that's a strawman. You also won't be paying the current value. You'll pay something between what it's worth now and what the market thinks it will be worth one day. That will be discounted for risk and for the delayed gratification.
- pakitan 10y ago> You'll pay something between what it's worth now and what the market thinks it will be worth one day That sentence doesn't make sense. I think you're conflating worth/value (subjective measures) with price (objective). I can't pay more for an item than what's it worth to me
- eloff 10y agoBetween current value (what it should be fairly priced at) and future worth (what it may one day be priced at.) You know what I mean.