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From the article "Police officers questioned Shaheen for 15 minutes under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act, under which the police can detain individuals withou

by PJDK 10y ago

From the article "Police officers questioned Shaheen for 15 minutes under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act, under which the police can detain individuals without grounds for suspicion of involvement in criminal activities, including terrorism." So...someone over reacted/misunderstood, the police had a chat, and she went home. Detained is not arrested, it's not on record it just means you aren't allowed to walk off (IANAL but that's how I understand it). Someone in the cabin crew was a bit dumb, but it was over within half an hour of it hitting an actual authority figure. Not a pleasant experience, but the only people at fault here are cabin creq

WillPostForFood 10y ago
We are now in a place where you are racist if you report something and you are wrong, and you are an idiot if you don't report something and something bad happens. Most people would rather be labeled an idiot, and we have yet another terror attack in Europe.
- mikeash 10y ago
  We are now in a place where you are a racist if you report something stupid based on someone's race and are wrong. Are you trying to make the case that reporting a Muslim for reading a book is somehow not racist?
  - WillPostForFood 10y ago
    It's safe to assume there were other muslims reading books on a plane going to Turkey, and they didn't get reported. This woman wasn't reported "for reading a book," but because of what book she was reading. So it was not racist, though her appearance was definitely part of the decision making process.
    - mikeash 10y ago
      Fine, for reading this book. How does that make it any less stupid or racist?
    - krapp 10y ago
      >It's safe to assume there were other muslims reading books on a plane going to Turkey, and they didn't get reported. If any of these books were about Syrian culture, you would have a point. But the issue is whether or not it's reasonable to suspect, detain and interrogate someone for reading a book about Syrian culture, regardless of their appearance. > though her appearance was definitely part of the decision making process. I think a more obviously European-looking person reading the same book on the same plane would not have seemed suspicious, and would never have been detained. Her appearance even being part of the decision making process is what makes it racist. That such an absurd thing was taken seriously makes it racist.
      - WillPostForFood 10y ago
        There is a lot of context not in the article. A white European man with a long beard and clean shaven lip reading the book might have seemed suspicious. Since what authorities are looking for is people going to fight for teh Islamic State, then how Islamic you looks is a valid factor in determining suspicion - that isn't racist.
        krapp 10y ago
        "looking Islamic" while minding your own business isn't suspicious behavior.

by PJDK 10y ago

WillPostForFood 10y ago

We are now in a place where you are racist if you report something and you are wrong, and you are an idiot if you don't report something and something bad happens. Most people would rather be labeled an idiot, and we have yet another terror attack in Europe.

mikeash 10y ago
We are now in a place where you are a racist if you report something stupid based on someone's race and are wrong. Are you trying to make the case that reporting a Muslim for reading a book is somehow not racist?
- WillPostForFood 10y ago
  It's safe to assume there were other muslims reading books on a plane going to Turkey, and they didn't get reported. This woman wasn't reported "for reading a book," but because of what book she was reading. So it was not racist, though her appearance was definitely part of the decision making process.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    Fine, for reading this book. How does that make it any less stupid or racist?
  - krapp 10y ago
    >It's safe to assume there were other muslims reading books on a plane going to Turkey, and they didn't get reported. If any of these books were about Syrian culture, you would have a point. But the issue is whether or not it's reasonable to suspect, detain and interrogate someone for reading a book about Syrian culture, regardless of their appearance. > though her appearance was definitely part of the decision making process. I think a more obviously European-looking person reading the same book on the same plane would not have seemed suspicious, and would never have been detained. Her appearance even being part of the decision making process is what makes it racist. That such an absurd thing was taken seriously makes it racist.
    - WillPostForFood 10y ago
      There is a lot of context not in the article. A white European man with a long beard and clean shaven lip reading the book might have seemed suspicious. Since what authorities are looking for is people going to fight for teh Islamic State, then how Islamic you looks is a valid factor in determining suspicion - that isn't racist.
      - krapp 10y ago
        "looking Islamic" while minding your own business isn't suspicious behavior.