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Does that male student actually become a STEM practitioner, or do they just flunk out at a later date than the female? It's unclear that female behavior here is

Does that male student actually become a STEM practitioner, or do they just flunk out at a later date than the female? It's unclear that female behavior here is what needs to be fixed. Perhaps men should drop out more. Another possibility is that both behaviors are correct responses to different incentives. Males generally have far lower social value than females, so for the male it might be STEM or bust. In contrast, the female has options like moving into a non-competitive profession and then get married to an engineer/lawyer/doctor/banker. So for the female, the marginal value of STEM over her next best choice might be a lot lower than the male.

hx87 10y ago
> Males generally have far lower social value than females Probably because men are more willing to marry down socioeconomically, although this is changing and may move further in the direction of equality in the future.
- yummyfajitas 10y ago
  This is not generally what has happened so far - so far women's rise has driven assortative mating rather than women marrying down. I think this is (in the long haul) a good thing, provided we can encourage high intellect couples to reproduce. It'll generate a high IQ upper caste who will be natural leaders for society.
  - hx87 10y ago
    Men have become more socioeconomically selective, at least to a greater extent than women have become less selective. I think you and I are in agreement there.
wastedhours 10y ago
100% agree that men should also probably drop out more. I did, but many others continued, only becoming disillusioned, frustrated and ending up in completely non-STEM fields in large numbers. That being said, addressing barriers to career choice earlier in life is important so people can start becoming passionate before the opportunity to explore them (at traditional educational stages) passes them by.

hx87 10y ago

> Males generally have far lower social value than females Probably because men are more willing to marry down socioeconomically, although this is changing and may move further in the direction of equality in the future.

yummyfajitas 10y ago
This is not generally what has happened so far - so far women's rise has driven assortative mating rather than women marrying down. I think this is (in the long haul) a good thing, provided we can encourage high intellect couples to reproduce. It'll generate a high IQ upper caste who will be natural leaders for society.
- hx87 10y ago
  Men have become more socioeconomically selective, at least to a greater extent than women have become less selective. I think you and I are in agreement there.

wastedhours 10y ago

100% agree that men should also probably drop out more. I did, but many others continued, only becoming disillusioned, frustrated and ending up in completely non-STEM fields in large numbers. That being said, addressing barriers to career choice earlier in life is important so people can start becoming passionate before the opportunity to explore them (at traditional educational stages) passes them by.