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> I must say that this website comes across as very unprofessional due to the total lack of any design elements which would make it more easy to consume the con
by wtbob 10y ago
> I must say that this website comes across as very unprofessional due to the total lack of any design elements which would make it more easy to consume the content (spacing, choice of font).
Say what? On the contrary, I think that it's splendidly simple to read LWN, because there's no distraction. It's a good, clean site; it respects the styling I instruct my browser to apply to it; it displays just fine in links, lynx, elinks, ewww, emacs-w3m, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Internet Explorer, Edge — if that's not professional, then what is?
The HTML is very clean and readable. They do use CSS.
Granted, it doesn't look trendy. Indeed, it looks like something from the 90s/00s. But once one updates to a20`6 style, one then has to spend money in 2017, 2018, spring 2019, summer 2019, fall 2019, winter 2019, January 2020, February 2020 — one will be paying designers and artists until the end of time.
Would I appreciate a somewhat more current look? Sure. Would I trade good HTML and universal readability for a more current look? Hell no.
- happyslobro 10y agoAlso, things that should be rock solid and dirt simple by now have actually gotten more fragile over time. Heck, just look what happened when the parent tried to write the current year, after successfully expressing an older two decade range ;) 2016 was a total mistake. Let's just revert, and then wait for 2020-LTS.
- wtbob 10y ago> Heck, just look what happened when the parent tried to write the current year, after successfully expressing an older two decade range ;) Argh, I blame an unfamiliar keyboard. And being half-asleep. Sigh
- tehmillhouse 10y agoAs a reader of a website, I usually primarily care about what the page looks like when it's rendered, as opposed to how clean the HTML is. Granted, the current trend to make everything feel like a shitty JavaScript application would be taking it too far, but lwn.net is definitely not a pleasure to read. Yes, it displays "just fine" in links, lynx, elinks, etc., if your definition of "just fine" is Fefe's Blog.
- pantalaimon 10y ago> Yes, it displays "just fine" in links, lynx, elinks, etc., if your definition of "just fine" is Fefe's Blog. Hey, fefe has some pretty nice stylesheets for his blog https://blog.fefe.de/?css=darkgreen.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=darkgreen.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=cold_blue.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=cold_blue.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=ascii.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=ascii.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=topaz.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=topaz.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=janvsfefe.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=janvsfefe.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=lesefefe.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=lesefefe.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=greenplot.css https://blog.fefe.de/?css=greenplot.css
- lawl 10y agoFor the non german speaking crowd, CSS reset: https://blog.fefe.de/?css= https://blog.fefe.de/?css= This is how it looks if you visit the site without a CSS cookie.
- Svenskunganka 10y agoYou don't really have to make it look "current" to make it better. I think a good example is antirez blog: http://antirez.com/latest/0 http://antirez.com/latest/0 It's clean, very simple and renders fine in everything, even mobile. No distracting content, proper font and font spacing.
- josteink 10y agoAnd has terrible contrast on the main page content's text making it hard to read if you have poor eyesight, poor light conditions or a poor monitor. This would probably fail a basic Universal Accessibility test based on that alone.
- sp332 10y agoI don't like low-contrast sites, but on my monitor that one is stark black-and-white. In fact there are no CSS rules for the color, and the font stack is "Inconsolata, Courier" so I don't know what the issue could be.
- brazzledazzle 10y agoNot seeing what you're describing either.
- benaiah 10y agoWhat are you talking about? The text on that page is pure black (rgb(0,0,0)) on pure white (rgba(0,0,0,0)). You literally can't get more contrast without coloring either the text or the background. This contrast circlejerk is getting incredibly annoying.
- Gigablah 10y agoIt's black and white on my MBP (Chrome). Maybe your browser is the one messing it up.
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- akx 10y agoOh, I'll bite. It took me 15 minutes and 44 lines of CSS to make it look significantly more 2010s (and dare I say it, more readable): http://i.imgur.com/LAhwht5.png http://i.imgur.com/LAhwht5.png
- wtbob 10y agoI prefer serif fonts, but that looks nice enough.