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> this website comes across as very unprofessional due to the total lack of any design elements Really? I've always viewed plain HTML sites in the complete opp
by pubby 10y ago
> this website comes across as very unprofessional due to the total lack of any design elements
Really? I've always viewed plain HTML sites in the complete opposite way. They tend to have really good, well thought-out content. There's no filler or clickbait with them.
- pasiaj 10y agoCompare LWN and Hacker News. Both are very simple, but the comment section of Hacker News has an emphasis on content, and metadata is showed in a very simple and toned down way. ("7 minutes ago" vs TIMESTAMP). On LWN there is unnecessary and redundant metadata accentuated! Everything on HN is clearly thought out, and almost nothing on LWN is.
- 1_2__3 10y agoSome of us vastly prefer a time stamp to an utterly useless relative measurement displayed.
- zeveb 10y ago> Some of us vastly prefer a time stamp to an utterly useless relative measurement displayed. Ditto. Maybe I loaded the page yesterday. What does '1 hour ago' mean? Was it updated by JavaScript? Is it an hour from now, or from yesterday, or what? Give me a timestamp, and I know.
- sdkmvx 10y agoIt gets even less useful as time goes on. Eventually it'll say one year ago. A timestamp would give the exact time rather than a huge range.
- hehheh 10y agoI find most timestamps useless. It's rare that they include the time zone, so I'm always left wondering if they mean my browser detected time zone (through some JS), the TZ that the server uses, UTC, or whatever. "N minutes ago" is compact and does not require any client-side JS to provide an unambiguous value. At least LWN includes the timezone, which is a step ahead of most of the sites I've used.
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- daraosn 10y agoDisagree, even Hacker News has some attempts to have a better design while keeping the HTML site look.
- zeveb 10y ago> the HTML site look. I love that phrase for all it implies about the point of view of the user thereof — to my knowledge, every site is an HTML site.
- omginternets 10y agoI think this (humorous) site is relevant, here: http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ Excessive CSS is, well, excessive. That said, a tiny pinch of CSS goes a long way towards making a page readable and aesthetic.
- CaptSpify 10y agoI liken CSS and JS to salt: putting a little on makes things better. But pouring a lot on quickly makes things worse. Scarcity is the key
- omginternets 10y ago"CSS is the spice of HTML"
- JoshTriplett 10y ago"A little bit helps, don't use too much, and don't use flavors that don't mix"?
- zanchey 10y agoI suspect the "traditional" readers of LWN hold similar views and would resist anything less functional than the current site, regardless of its flashiness.