that's where the milestones can help; it gives concrete visibility to stakeholders of what the technical debt actually is "oh we've loads of technical debt, it

that's where the milestones can help; it gives concrete visibility to stakeholders of what the technical debt actually is "oh we've loads of technical debt, it's such a pain", becomes "well we ticked off 4 big TD milestones last quarter and accrued a new small one"