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The Masculine Mystique
- CapitalistCartr 17y agoThere are some considerable weaknesses in concluding causation here. Their theory is a sound proposal, but countries with higher levels of health, also are wealthier, more socialist, and other factors. All of which might be relevant.
- pbz 17y agoThey quote Romania as one of the low-masculinity countries while Bulgaria as one of the high, so as somewhat polar opposites. There are very small differences in terms of wealth, health care access, or even physical location between these two countries.
- bh23ha 17y agoThere are very small differences in terms of wealth, health care access, or even physical location between these two countries. Or cultural traditions like Mărţişor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%83r%C5%A3i%C5%9For http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%83r%C5%A3i%C5%9For and Martenitsa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martenitsa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martenitsa Or ancient history, or recent history, or genetics, etc. This really makes me wonder about the study, and exactly what they measured?
- greenlblue 17y agoTotally agree. There are too many other confounding factors to make any strong conclusions from this.
- mlinsey 17y agoOne possible confounding variable that immediately lept to my mind was a study published sometime in the past couple years indicated that women's preferences change depending on whether they are currently taking hormonal birth control. I believe it did say that more "feminine" characteristics were more attractive when taking such birth control - and these birth control methods are probably more common in countries with better medical systems in general.
- rmk 17y agoYes, I remember reading about this as well... Perhaps it does play a role whose 'share' hasn't been taken into account.
- lsc 17y ago"In 1970, women represented only 43.3% of women of the labor force, compared to 55.8% today. " Uhm...
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- dmix 17y agoI'd be interested to know what effect the womens rating on masculinity had to do with what position they where in their own life, sexually and socially. From what I've read of evolutionary pyschology, when women are younger and adventurous, or when their friends are single, they are looking for alpha males. But when they want to settle down they often lean towards less masculine beta males.
- FlemishBeeCycle 17y agoAlso varies on where they are in their monthly cycle http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1559901/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1559901/
- nazgulnarsil 17y agodominant strategy is sleeping with alphas and keeping a beta for resources/security. cuckholdry rates being far higher than is generally assumed seems to support this. avoided topic because it makes people uncomfortable.
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- matttibbals69 17y agoI'm Matt Tibbals, pedophile. http://www.matthewtibbals.com http://www.matthewtibbals.com
- lionhearted 17y agoAuthor misses an important point. Evolution by sexual selection only applies to a woman's choices 3-5 days out of the month, when she is able to conceive and become pregnant. Any study that doesn't take this into account is going to get some misleading data - a woman's preference in men the non-conceiving 25 to 28 days out of a month has a lot less bearing on evolution and sexual selection than the other 3 to 5 days.