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From the app description [1] Extreme security with your fingerprint . Your fingerprint encrypts your call. Use this application for secure communication. This

by sasas 10y ago

From the app description [1] Extreme security with your fingerprint . Your fingerprint encrypts your call. Use this application for secure communication. This application uses industry leading encryption techniques .. Super Secure Free Calls available TFA states that the app author was listed as 'David Keynes of Beaverton, Oregon'. Looking at the text from the author's Wordpress site [2] and app description, one could possibly come to the conclusion that the author is not a native english speaker (or has substandard grammar skills). 'David Keynes' a non native english speaker? Putting that together with claims of 'Super Secure Free Calls'. Something doesn't add up here.. [1] https://apkpure.com/bylock-secure-chat-talk/net.client.by.lock https://apkpure.com/bylock-secure-chat-talk/net.client.by.lo... [2] https://bylockapp.wordpress.com/ https://bylockapp.wordpress.com/

chendies 10y ago
There are also hardly any search queries on Google trends [1], and less than 10 total tweets in Turkish between 2014-01-01 and 2016-07-16 [2]. Very strange, indeed. [1] https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-01-01%202016-07-18&q=bylock https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-01-01%202016... [2] https://twitter.com/search?q=%22bylock%22%20lang%3Atr%20since%3A2014-01-01%20until%3A2016-07-15&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=%22bylock%22%20lang%3Atr%20sinc...
- mustaflex 10y ago
  one of the tweet says: beware people in the government, these guys use some app called bylock, I hope you haved "cracked" it already. another(from a gulenist it seems) says, guys don't use the same app for communications over and over, try to be more diverse (talk about an app called kakao)
  - osaatcioglu 10y ago
    I was translating the same messages* :) Obviously, this app was known by public. So, I am not sure if they would risk themselves to use it to plan something illegal. Yet, things in Turkey are getting very amateurish in every aspects for the last decade. So, luckily for the sake of bits and pieces of Turkish democracy, this coup attempt was also amateurish. However; I have the tendency to believe that Erdoğan knew that they were working on something nasty and he might had even encouraged it indirectly. So that, he could control it and benefit from it. I must say that I have biased opinions against Erdoğan. *@pazartesi2014 says @kuscusencer ByLock programınıda umarım çözmüssünüzdür Reis paralelciler buna sardılar şimdi -- @kuscusencer I hope you have decrypted the ByLock app, Reis (an informal expression, meaning superior). Gulenci People have started use this. And this guy seems like from the movement @nifaksavar Arkadaslar sürekli aynı servis sağlayıcıyı kullanmayın bylock kakao vb.. --- Friends, don't always use the same service provider bylock, kakao etc..
    - mustaflex 10y ago
      yours are more accurate of course. Mines were only rough translations.
      - osaatcioglu 10y ago
        oh, I didn't mean that. But, thanks.
    - dandare 10y ago
      I agree with you that a military coup against democratically elected president is hardly a step toward democracy. But what Erdogan is doing in return is intolerable: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/aftermath-failed-turkey-coup-torture-beatings-and-rape https://www.amnesty.org.uk/aftermath-failed-turkey-coup-tort...
      - osaatcioglu 10y ago
        Totally agree with you. What happens right now gives the feeling that the military coup has succeeded.
CameronBanga 10y ago
I don't want to get all tinfoil, but have read many who have insinuated that this may have been an inside job by president of Turkey to get rid of dissenting voices. This sort of thing kinda lends credence to that sort of idea.
- yompers888 10y ago
  It's my understanding that he's been putting his own people in high military positions for a while now. So it's not surprising that he could have short circuited the coup mechanism. Having said that, I stayed up watching the whole thing, and it never felt very real. There's no way you're going to fire on people in the streets with a helicopter but not shoot down the president's plane. Hell, they didn't even arrest the Parliament.
  - Osiris 10y ago
    And the President got exactly what he wanted out it, an increase in popular support and a consolidation of power. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he had a hand in his own coup attempt as a way to solidify his grasp on power.
    - shard972 10y ago
      Well this is the same president who had his officials caught red handed a couple years ago planning a false flag on themselves to start a war in syria. Not the craziest thing to say he would setup a coup against himself.
      - tim333 10y ago
        It seems quite likely to me. Like why launch the coup at prime time, arrest zero government members, leave most TV stations running and not fire on Erdogan's plane? Also the guy who "allegedly gave the order that set the coup in motion" was one of Erdogan's AKP mates brother. Just today the guy who bombed the parliament was testifying and said he was instructed to drop a bomb in the parliament garden. I mean why bomb the garden if not for theater? What I'm wondering is where things go from here and if anyone can do anything about it. I'm guessing the likes of the NSA probably have some info on who did what if they feel like using it.
chinhodado 10y ago
It feels quite strange. The app is supposedly made by a single person, who decided to... unpublish the app because it was too popular? And then, he kept a central server up and running to support the app nearly two years after that? There are 1951 user ratings for an average of 4 stars, and the creator claimed that there were about 1M users, yet hardly anyone has heard of it? The app also doesn't seem to have any ads from the screenshots.
- niftich 10y ago
  Do you have the domain name used for the central server? I doubt a whois is very enlightening, but it's another thread to track down.
  - psykpsyk 10y ago
    No domain, just an IP: 46.166.164.181 on balticservers.com IP space, with a Brazilian contact... good luck
- xorcist 10y ago
  A consequence of unpublishing the app is that the user has to check "allow untrusted sources". That could in turn be practical if your goal is to install spyware (unless byLock itself contains the spyware which might be too obvious).

by sasas 10y ago

chendies 10y ago

There are also hardly any search queries on Google trends [1], and less than 10 total tweets in Turkish between 2014-01-01 and 2016-07-16 [2]. Very strange, indeed. [1] https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-01-01%202016-07-18&q=bylock https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-01-01%202016... [2] https://twitter.com/search?q=%22bylock%22%20lang%3Atr%20since%3A2014-01-01%20until%3A2016-07-15&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=%22bylock%22%20lang%3Atr%20sinc...

mustaflex 10y ago
one of the tweet says: beware people in the government, these guys use some app called bylock, I hope you haved "cracked" it already. another(from a gulenist it seems) says, guys don't use the same app for communications over and over, try to be more diverse (talk about an app called kakao)
- osaatcioglu 10y ago
  I was translating the same messages* :) Obviously, this app was known by public. So, I am not sure if they would risk themselves to use it to plan something illegal. Yet, things in Turkey are getting very amateurish in every aspects for the last decade. So, luckily for the sake of bits and pieces of Turkish democracy, this coup attempt was also amateurish. However; I have the tendency to believe that Erdoğan knew that they were working on something nasty and he might had even encouraged it indirectly. So that, he could control it and benefit from it. I must say that I have biased opinions against Erdoğan. *@pazartesi2014 says @kuscusencer ByLock programınıda umarım çözmüssünüzdür Reis paralelciler buna sardılar şimdi -- @kuscusencer I hope you have decrypted the ByLock app, Reis (an informal expression, meaning superior). Gulenci People have started use this. And this guy seems like from the movement @nifaksavar Arkadaslar sürekli aynı servis sağlayıcıyı kullanmayın bylock kakao vb.. --- Friends, don't always use the same service provider bylock, kakao etc..
  - mustaflex 10y ago
    yours are more accurate of course. Mines were only rough translations.
    - osaatcioglu 10y ago
      oh, I didn't mean that. But, thanks.
  - dandare 10y ago
    I agree with you that a military coup against democratically elected president is hardly a step toward democracy. But what Erdogan is doing in return is intolerable: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/aftermath-failed-turkey-coup-torture-beatings-and-rape https://www.amnesty.org.uk/aftermath-failed-turkey-coup-tort...
    - osaatcioglu 10y ago
      Totally agree with you. What happens right now gives the feeling that the military coup has succeeded.

CameronBanga 10y ago

I don't want to get all tinfoil, but have read many who have insinuated that this may have been an inside job by president of Turkey to get rid of dissenting voices. This sort of thing kinda lends credence to that sort of idea.

yompers888 10y ago
It's my understanding that he's been putting his own people in high military positions for a while now. So it's not surprising that he could have short circuited the coup mechanism. Having said that, I stayed up watching the whole thing, and it never felt very real. There's no way you're going to fire on people in the streets with a helicopter but not shoot down the president's plane. Hell, they didn't even arrest the Parliament.
- Osiris 10y ago
  And the President got exactly what he wanted out it, an increase in popular support and a consolidation of power. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he had a hand in his own coup attempt as a way to solidify his grasp on power.
  - shard972 10y ago
    Well this is the same president who had his officials caught red handed a couple years ago planning a false flag on themselves to start a war in syria. Not the craziest thing to say he would setup a coup against himself.
    - tim333 10y ago
      It seems quite likely to me. Like why launch the coup at prime time, arrest zero government members, leave most TV stations running and not fire on Erdogan's plane? Also the guy who "allegedly gave the order that set the coup in motion" was one of Erdogan's AKP mates brother. Just today the guy who bombed the parliament was testifying and said he was instructed to drop a bomb in the parliament garden. I mean why bomb the garden if not for theater? What I'm wondering is where things go from here and if anyone can do anything about it. I'm guessing the likes of the NSA probably have some info on who did what if they feel like using it.

chinhodado 10y ago

It feels quite strange. The app is supposedly made by a single person, who decided to... unpublish the app because it was too popular? And then, he kept a central server up and running to support the app nearly two years after that? There are 1951 user ratings for an average of 4 stars, and the creator claimed that there were about 1M users, yet hardly anyone has heard of it? The app also doesn't seem to have any ads from the screenshots.

niftich 10y ago
Do you have the domain name used for the central server? I doubt a whois is very enlightening, but it's another thread to track down.
- psykpsyk 10y ago
  No domain, just an IP: 46.166.164.181 on balticservers.com IP space, with a Brazilian contact... good luck
xorcist 10y ago
A consequence of unpublishing the app is that the user has to check "allow untrusted sources". That could in turn be practical if your goal is to install spyware (unless byLock itself contains the spyware which might be too obvious).