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Is there some huge subsidy going on in your country? That's well below the cost for any feasible fiber deployment in Ameirca. You'd have to use slaves to get it

Is there some huge subsidy going on in your country? That's well below the cost for any feasible fiber deployment in Ameirca. You'd have to use slaves to get it for about 20 bucks. Or is it 15 euro on top of your phone and tv?

amazon_not 10y ago
I don't believe Orange is receiving any subsidy to build or operate its networks. It's more likely that this is in one of the Eastern European countries where the cost of living is lower and prices like these are the norm.
vetinari 10y ago
No, without subsidy, without phone and TV, data only (non-shaped, non-filtered, public and dynamic IP if you have IPv4 service, /56 subnet and DS-Lite if you have IPv6 service). However, this is not a price you would get when you walk in - the price list is 17 EUR for 250/15, upping upload to 100 is 5, upping upload to 250 (from 15, not 100) would be 15. Additional fees if you want TV or phone, or static IP. This network has been in operation for years - I've been customer for 9 years already, hence the lower price. In the beginning, it was slower of course, about 40/10, but I imagine the network has already paid for itself. The reason why it is was built in the first place were bad conditions for accessing DSLAMs operated by our ILEC at the time - T-Com. It was impossible for any ISP to offer flat-rate DSL, because the ILEC was asking for data-based charges, quite high at that. So Orange threw it the towel, built its own optical network, set the prices as another DSL providers, but with order of magnitude faster speeds with no data caps - and had a runaway success with it. The other big ISP were in shock, but to remain competitive they quickly built their own FTTH networks, or at least upgraded their HFC (UPC). So in the end we have a cheap Internet thanks to T-Com greed :).

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Is there some huge subsidy going on in your country? That's well below the cost for any feasible fiber deployment in Ameirca. You'd have to use slaves to get it

by rhino369 10y ago

amazon_not 10y ago
I don't believe Orange is receiving any subsidy to build or operate its networks. It's more likely that this is in one of the Eastern European countries where the cost of living is lower and prices like these are the norm.
vetinari 10y ago
No, without subsidy, without phone and TV, data only (non-shaped, non-filtered, public and dynamic IP if you have IPv4 service, /56 subnet and DS-Lite if you have IPv6 service). However, this is not a price you would get when you walk in - the price list is 17 EUR for 250/15, upping upload to 100 is 5, upping upload to 250 (from 15, not 100) would be 15. Additional fees if you want TV or phone, or static IP. This network has been in operation for years - I've been customer for 9 years already, hence the lower price. In the beginning, it was slower of course, about 40/10, but I imagine the network has already paid for itself. The reason why it is was built in the first place were bad conditions for accessing DSLAMs operated by our ILEC at the time - T-Com. It was impossible for any ISP to offer flat-rate DSL, because the ILEC was asking for data-based charges, quite high at that. So Orange threw it the towel, built its own optical network, set the prices as another DSL providers, but with order of magnitude faster speeds with no data caps - and had a runaway success with it. The other big ISP were in shock, but to remain competitive they quickly built their own FTTH networks, or at least upgraded their HFC (UPC). So in the end we have a cheap Internet thanks to T-Com greed :).