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They're probably some real mental illnesses but probably much less than actually listed in the DSM book. I just think the industry is quick to give people pills

by Keverw 10y ago

They're probably some real mental illnesses but probably much less than actually listed in the DSM book. I just think the industry is quick to give people pills and the people who write the DSM have financial ties to the industry. 3,000 people a month die because of psychiatry. We don't ever hear about these victims. There was a court case where a psychiatrist testified and was questioned about what tests he ran on the person he was claiming had a chemical imbalance. He was questioned what kind of tests he did and he said he watched him for 2 hours. No actual medical tests. It's very subjective and not scientific in most cases.

civilian 10y ago
> 3,000 people a month die because of psychiatry. Citation?
- Keverw 10y ago
  The CCHR mentions it in their documentary. Also found this in a Google Search http://www.rehabs.com/pro-talk-articles/psychiatric-medications-kill-more-americans-than-heroin/ http://www.rehabs.com/pro-talk-articles/psychiatric-medicati... The medicines they prescribe kills more than heroin. And that's not even counting the shock theory. Yes, they still do that... Here's a video I found a while back on the modern day version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2-B-aluCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2-B-aluCE It sucks people on HN down votes people for being the messenger of bad news. and full disclaimer, I am not affiliated with any of these mentioned sites or organizations. I just always had a bad feeling about psychiatry and these people confirm how bad they really are.
Broken_Hippo 10y ago
Go out and learn about what happens in mental hospitals. My ex was schizo-affective, and I've spent some time in some of the hospital wards and the system and stuff. If a child or adult was there because of something like ADHD, it wasn't the sort of thing you are describing. Folks there are generally dealing with things that the rest of us couldn't imagine going through properly - as attested by your attitude. Severe depression, anxiety, bipolar, severe addiction, and other such things needing actual medical oversight. Are there horrible people practicing? Sure, but that is society at large. Most of the folks helping others want to help. Like everything else, we hear these stories because they are outliers. Some things Are subjective because we don't have the medical tests yet and we have to go by what the patient is willing to describe... but yet, if you give the wrong sort of medicine, it reacts badly. This still happens in "regular" medicine as well when we don't have proper diagnostic tools available. When we know more and have definitive tests widely available, we can do these things you describe.
- Keverw 10y ago
  Yeah, maybe I just witnessed some bad things when I was younger about this industry, which I kinda wish I would forget. Being in rural Ohio, they were probably more desperate for money but from what I find online it seems to not be isolated. Just something I never really been comfortable talking about and bottled up inside. This world is a really screwed up place. Some people took their kids to like 3 different places just to get meds to zombify them so they don't have to be parrents and actually watch their kids. Or some put their kids in mental hospitals to try and scare them. It just really makes me sad and I feel like they're doing more harm than good. At least some of the places locally I know of got a bad rating like average of 2-3 stars. Some of this stuff is just too close to home.

by Keverw 10y ago

civilian 10y ago

> 3,000 people a month die because of psychiatry. Citation?

Keverw 10y ago
The CCHR mentions it in their documentary. Also found this in a Google Search http://www.rehabs.com/pro-talk-articles/psychiatric-medications-kill-more-americans-than-heroin/ http://www.rehabs.com/pro-talk-articles/psychiatric-medicati... The medicines they prescribe kills more than heroin. And that's not even counting the shock theory. Yes, they still do that... Here's a video I found a while back on the modern day version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2-B-aluCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2-B-aluCE It sucks people on HN down votes people for being the messenger of bad news. and full disclaimer, I am not affiliated with any of these mentioned sites or organizations. I just always had a bad feeling about psychiatry and these people confirm how bad they really are.

Broken_Hippo 10y ago

Go out and learn about what happens in mental hospitals. My ex was schizo-affective, and I've spent some time in some of the hospital wards and the system and stuff. If a child or adult was there because of something like ADHD, it wasn't the sort of thing you are describing. Folks there are generally dealing with things that the rest of us couldn't imagine going through properly - as attested by your attitude. Severe depression, anxiety, bipolar, severe addiction, and other such things needing actual medical oversight. Are there horrible people practicing? Sure, but that is society at large. Most of the folks helping others want to help. Like everything else, we hear these stories because they are outliers. Some things Are subjective because we don't have the medical tests yet and we have to go by what the patient is willing to describe... but yet, if you give the wrong sort of medicine, it reacts badly. This still happens in "regular" medicine as well when we don't have proper diagnostic tools available. When we know more and have definitive tests widely available, we can do these things you describe.

Keverw 10y ago
Yeah, maybe I just witnessed some bad things when I was younger about this industry, which I kinda wish I would forget. Being in rural Ohio, they were probably more desperate for money but from what I find online it seems to not be isolated. Just something I never really been comfortable talking about and bottled up inside. This world is a really screwed up place. Some people took their kids to like 3 different places just to get meds to zombify them so they don't have to be parrents and actually watch their kids. Or some put their kids in mental hospitals to try and scare them. It just really makes me sad and I feel like they're doing more harm than good. At least some of the places locally I know of got a bad rating like average of 2-3 stars. Some of this stuff is just too close to home.