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If your purview of mental health starts and stops at ADD/ADHD, you aren't really qualified to write off all of psychology.

Keverw 10y ago
They sit around a table voting on stuff to add to the DSM... You sit with them for like 10 minutes and "Oh you're bipolar." No MRI or blood test... The same people who said being gay was a mental illness. So why trust a industry promoting hate and still promoting ADHD which was admitted as being a work of fiction. There's a group called Citizens Commission on Human Rights that made documentaries on the subject which are really convincing. Seen their commercial one day on TV, and spent a night watching some of their material. There's a clip somewhere on YouTube where someone went to like 5 different psychiatrists but was told all different things. Then they also had a mother tell her story about how a psychiatrist killed her son Matthew. I already had a bad view of the industry, but after watching their content it really reinforced my feelings towards them. Edit: Found the video I was talking about it. http://www.cchr.org/videos.html http://www.cchr.org/videos.html The first one on that page, It's about a hour but I think it does a great job at exposing psychiatry. I think everyone including parrents should watch this before visiting a psychiatrist
- Sanddancer 10y ago
  The CCHR is a Scientology shill group, and is about as full of shit as 10 pounds of manure stuffed in a 5 pound bag. So yeah, all those videos you watched are done by the same people who believe that your problems are caused by Xenu and blown up aliens.
  - Keverw 10y ago
    Yeah, Scientology seems a bit extreme. Apparently, they get in a really hot sauna for hours to cleanse and it sounds really unsafe to me. But besides them being part of Scientology, I do think they make some valid points.
  - tcj_phx 10y ago
    The CCHR has to be considered in context. Robert Whitaker's book, Anatomy of an Epidemic [1], makes the case that Scientologists were used by the drug companies to deflect criticism of the mass use of ineffective drugs: THE CRITICS BELIEVE IN ALIENS The story of a "psychopharmacology revolution" had first been told in the 1950s and 1960s, and then, as we've seen in this chapter, it was revived in the 1980s. However, the storytellers in the 1980s were more vulnerable to criticism than the storytellers of the earlier decades simply because there was now twenty years of research that undermined their narative. None of the drugs had proven to help people function well over the long term, and the chemical- imbalance theory of mental disorders was in the process of flaming out. As NIMH researchers had concluded in 1984, "elevations or decrements in the functioning of serotonergic systems per se are not likely to be associated with depression." ... There was a Grand Canyon-sized gap between what the broken-brain storytellers were intimating was true and what was actually known, and that same gap would appear in their stories when Prozac and the other second-generation drugs came to market. But fortunately for the proponents of biological psychiatry, criticism of the medical model and of psychiatric drugs became associated, in the public mind, with Scientology. ... ... In 1969, Scientology and Thomas Szasz cofounded the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, and this group began waging campaigns against lobotomy, electroshock, and psychiatric drugs. This proved to be very fortuitous for the APA [American Psychiatric Association] and its storytelling partners as they raised the flag of biological psychiatry. Indeed, it is easy to imagine the drug companies deciding to secretly fund Scientology's protests, eager as they were to shove money to any organization that would -- wittingly or unwittingly -- advance their cause. For not only did Scientologist believe in extraterrestrials, they also had gained a reputation for being a secretive, litigious, and even malevolent cult. Scientology, Time wrote in 1991, is a "hugely profitable global racket that survives by intimidating members and critics in a Mafia-like manner." Thanks to Scientology, the powers that be in psychiatry had the perfect storytelling foil, for they could now publicly dismiss criticism of the medical model and psychiatric drugs with a wave of the hand, deriding it as nonsense that arose from people who were members of a deeply unpopular cult, rather than criticism that arose from their own research. As such, the presence of Scientology in the storytelling mix served to taint all criticism of the medical model and psychiatric drugs, no matter what its source. Those were the storytelling forces that formed in the 1980s. When Prozac arrived on the market, they were lined up perfectly for the creation -- and maintenance -- of a tale about psychiatry's great new leap. -pg 280-282 Chapter 14, on the next page, opens with this quote: "When it comes to dead bodies in current psychotropic trials, there are a greater number of them in the active treatment groups than in the placebo groups. This is quite different from what happens in penicillin trials or trials of drugs that really work." -David Healy, Professor of Psychiatry at Cardiff University, Wales (2008) [1] http://www.madinamerica.com/product/62043/ http://www.madinamerica.com/product/62043/ I highly recommended this book for anyone who might ever have to defend themselves or someone their care about against a conventional psychiatrist.

Keverw 10y ago

They sit around a table voting on stuff to add to the DSM... You sit with them for like 10 minutes and "Oh you're bipolar." No MRI or blood test... The same people who said being gay was a mental illness. So why trust a industry promoting hate and still promoting ADHD which was admitted as being a work of fiction. There's a group called Citizens Commission on Human Rights that made documentaries on the subject which are really convincing. Seen their commercial one day on TV, and spent a night watching some of their material. There's a clip somewhere on YouTube where someone went to like 5 different psychiatrists but was told all different things. Then they also had a mother tell her story about how a psychiatrist killed her son Matthew. I already had a bad view of the industry, but after watching their content it really reinforced my feelings towards them. Edit: Found the video I was talking about it. http://www.cchr.org/videos.html http://www.cchr.org/videos.html The first one on that page, It's about a hour but I think it does a great job at exposing psychiatry. I think everyone including parrents should watch this before visiting a psychiatrist

Sanddancer 10y ago
The CCHR is a Scientology shill group, and is about as full of shit as 10 pounds of manure stuffed in a 5 pound bag. So yeah, all those videos you watched are done by the same people who believe that your problems are caused by Xenu and blown up aliens.
- Keverw 10y ago
  Yeah, Scientology seems a bit extreme. Apparently, they get in a really hot sauna for hours to cleanse and it sounds really unsafe to me. But besides them being part of Scientology, I do think they make some valid points.
- tcj_phx 10y ago
  The CCHR has to be considered in context. Robert Whitaker's book, Anatomy of an Epidemic [1], makes the case that Scientologists were used by the drug companies to deflect criticism of the mass use of ineffective drugs: THE CRITICS BELIEVE IN ALIENS The story of a "psychopharmacology revolution" had first been told in the 1950s and 1960s, and then, as we've seen in this chapter, it was revived in the 1980s. However, the storytellers in the 1980s were more vulnerable to criticism than the storytellers of the earlier decades simply because there was now twenty years of research that undermined their narative. None of the drugs had proven to help people function well over the long term, and the chemical- imbalance theory of mental disorders was in the process of flaming out. As NIMH researchers had concluded in 1984, "elevations or decrements in the functioning of serotonergic systems per se are not likely to be associated with depression." ... There was a Grand Canyon-sized gap between what the broken-brain storytellers were intimating was true and what was actually known, and that same gap would appear in their stories when Prozac and the other second-generation drugs came to market. But fortunately for the proponents of biological psychiatry, criticism of the medical model and of psychiatric drugs became associated, in the public mind, with Scientology. ... ... In 1969, Scientology and Thomas Szasz cofounded the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, and this group began waging campaigns against lobotomy, electroshock, and psychiatric drugs. This proved to be very fortuitous for the APA [American Psychiatric Association] and its storytelling partners as they raised the flag of biological psychiatry. Indeed, it is easy to imagine the drug companies deciding to secretly fund Scientology's protests, eager as they were to shove money to any organization that would -- wittingly or unwittingly -- advance their cause. For not only did Scientologist believe in extraterrestrials, they also had gained a reputation for being a secretive, litigious, and even malevolent cult. Scientology, Time wrote in 1991, is a "hugely profitable global racket that survives by intimidating members and critics in a Mafia-like manner." Thanks to Scientology, the powers that be in psychiatry had the perfect storytelling foil, for they could now publicly dismiss criticism of the medical model and psychiatric drugs with a wave of the hand, deriding it as nonsense that arose from people who were members of a deeply unpopular cult, rather than criticism that arose from their own research. As such, the presence of Scientology in the storytelling mix served to taint all criticism of the medical model and psychiatric drugs, no matter what its source. Those were the storytelling forces that formed in the 1980s. When Prozac arrived on the market, they were lined up perfectly for the creation -- and maintenance -- of a tale about psychiatry's great new leap. -pg 280-282 Chapter 14, on the next page, opens with this quote: "When it comes to dead bodies in current psychotropic trials, there are a greater number of them in the active treatment groups than in the placebo groups. This is quite different from what happens in penicillin trials or trials of drugs that really work." -David Healy, Professor of Psychiatry at Cardiff University, Wales (2008) [1] http://www.madinamerica.com/product/62043/ http://www.madinamerica.com/product/62043/ I highly recommended this book for anyone who might ever have to defend themselves or someone their care about against a conventional psychiatrist.