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What? This has to be redundant as most existing laws prevent a convicted individual of being within certain distances of children, school zones, etc.

by __abc 10y ago

jdavis703 10y ago
Or from even being on the Internet. While I'm no rape apologist, even someone who committed a sex crime against an adult in this case would be banned. Sure punish people up to the max book provides. But once you've done your time, you should be able to reenter society (perhaps excluding the place(s) you committed your specific crimes).
- maxerickson 10y ago
  Someone on parole would be receiving a punishment less than the max the book provides. Managed release is a lot less problematic than lifetime registries.
  - thaumasiotes 10y ago
    I find the logic of this perspective difficult to understand. You've got a group of people, and an activity that you think it is potentially dangerous for these people to participate in. So you want to make sure they don't participate while you're supervising them, but that they're free to once you've stopped? If you're going to allow them to participate once they're off parole, there is no case for prohibiting it while they're on parole. If they're going to be a problem, it's better to catch them at it.
    - maxerickson 10y ago
      That's a big part of what incarceration does, it removes freedom for a period of time. It's kind of a waste if that's all a society manages to accomplish with it, but there you go. I can sort of believe that someone who is required to maintain a steady job for 2 years is more likely to continue participating in society than someone who has just been released from an institution. I was also replying rather narrowly to the other post; parole is pretty clearly a lesser punishment than incarceration, not an addition to it like a registry. I wasn't endorsing this idea.
- PhasmaFelis 10y ago
  > While I'm no rape apologist, even someone who committed a sex crime against an adult in this case would be banned. Or someone who hasn't actually done anything wrong at all. You can get on the permanent sex offender registry for peeing outside, or for taking naked pictures of yourself while underage.

What? This has to be redundant as most existing laws prevent a convicted individual of being within certain distances of children, school zones, etc.

by __abc 10y ago

What? This has to be redundant as most existing laws prevent a convicted individual of being within certain distances of children, school zones, etc.

jdavis703 10y ago

Or from even being on the Internet. While I'm no rape apologist, even someone who committed a sex crime against an adult in this case would be banned. Sure punish people up to the max book provides. But once you've done your time, you should be able to reenter society (perhaps excluding the place(s) you committed your specific crimes).

maxerickson 10y ago
Someone on parole would be receiving a punishment less than the max the book provides. Managed release is a lot less problematic than lifetime registries.
- thaumasiotes 10y ago
  I find the logic of this perspective difficult to understand. You've got a group of people, and an activity that you think it is potentially dangerous for these people to participate in. So you want to make sure they don't participate while you're supervising them, but that they're free to once you've stopped? If you're going to allow them to participate once they're off parole, there is no case for prohibiting it while they're on parole. If they're going to be a problem, it's better to catch them at it.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    That's a big part of what incarceration does, it removes freedom for a period of time. It's kind of a waste if that's all a society manages to accomplish with it, but there you go. I can sort of believe that someone who is required to maintain a steady job for 2 years is more likely to continue participating in society than someone who has just been released from an institution. I was also replying rather narrowly to the other post; parole is pretty clearly a lesser punishment than incarceration, not an addition to it like a registry. I wasn't endorsing this idea.
PhasmaFelis 10y ago
> While I'm no rape apologist, even someone who committed a sex crime against an adult in this case would be banned. Or someone who hasn't actually done anything wrong at all. You can get on the permanent sex offender registry for peeing outside, or for taking naked pictures of yourself while underage.