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WordPress is a mess. It's a never ending source of problems. It'll save you some time upfront and then it'll cause many headaches later on. It's just better to

by kolme 10y ago

WordPress is a mess. It's a never ending source of problems. It'll save you some time upfront and then it'll cause many headaches later on. It's just better to stay away from it. It's not about being snobbish. It's just pointing out the truth.

tekklloneer 10y ago
I have had the exact opposite experience. As long as you install one of the common security plugins (and not much else), then you're fine. And all those plugins do is ensure things like strong passwords and auth retry lockout. A large part of the problem comes from the many, buggy plugins you can one click install from within wordpress.
- collyw 10y ago
  "A large part of the problem comes from the many, buggy plugins you can one click install from within wordpress." But isn't that the main benefit of Wordpress - the huge amount of plugins?
  - enraged_camel 10y ago
    Yep. And laypeople (wordpress's main audience) are not in a position where they can figure out which plugins have dangerous bugs.
  - tekklloneer 10y ago
    The main benefit of wordpress for most users, as I see it, is a way to get simple, user friendly CMS onto their own domain. For me, it's for my handful of non technical users to be able to publish posts and have a central repo for sharing event information.
- kolme 10y ago
  While that is mostly true, the amount of available plugins is one of the main selling points of WordPress. So if you have to avoid plugins altogether to stay safe, or don't need the plugins to begin with, you're probably better off with something saner (like bolt CMS). People (product, marketing, and so on) also always demand to install plugins (usable multi-language support, "SEO features" and all kind of things). Oh, and you'll also need some kind of caching plugin, because all that plugins are making it insufferably slow. And you want to keep it up to date (and plugins!) and fast, because security issues and worms taking advantage of it always lurking around the corner. I've got plenty of bad experiences with WordPress. In my opinion, in the long run we would have been better off with our own custom solution (we maintain our own proprietary PHP framework anyways, and we had code that would have covered most of the requirements. Management will always insist on WordPress for "saving time").
Meegul 10y ago
You call them problems, but I call them job security.

by kolme 10y ago

tekklloneer 10y ago

I have had the exact opposite experience. As long as you install one of the common security plugins (and not much else), then you're fine. And all those plugins do is ensure things like strong passwords and auth retry lockout. A large part of the problem comes from the many, buggy plugins you can one click install from within wordpress.

collyw 10y ago
"A large part of the problem comes from the many, buggy plugins you can one click install from within wordpress." But isn't that the main benefit of Wordpress - the huge amount of plugins?
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  Yep. And laypeople (wordpress's main audience) are not in a position where they can figure out which plugins have dangerous bugs.
- tekklloneer 10y ago
  The main benefit of wordpress for most users, as I see it, is a way to get simple, user friendly CMS onto their own domain. For me, it's for my handful of non technical users to be able to publish posts and have a central repo for sharing event information.
kolme 10y ago
While that is mostly true, the amount of available plugins is one of the main selling points of WordPress. So if you have to avoid plugins altogether to stay safe, or don't need the plugins to begin with, you're probably better off with something saner (like bolt CMS). People (product, marketing, and so on) also always demand to install plugins (usable multi-language support, "SEO features" and all kind of things). Oh, and you'll also need some kind of caching plugin, because all that plugins are making it insufferably slow. And you want to keep it up to date (and plugins!) and fast, because security issues and worms taking advantage of it always lurking around the corner. I've got plenty of bad experiences with WordPress. In my opinion, in the long run we would have been better off with our own custom solution (we maintain our own proprietary PHP framework anyways, and we had code that would have covered most of the requirements. Management will always insist on WordPress for "saving time").

Meegul 10y ago

You call them problems, but I call them job security.