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The US is segregated with ghettos in NY, Chicago, Detroit, etc. But I was making a point about Sweden. If you checked the blog I referred to, entitled "Police:

by jazzyk 10y ago

The US is segregated with ghettos in NY, Chicago, Detroit, etc. But I was making a point about Sweden. If you checked the blog I referred to, entitled "Police: Yes, there ARE No-Go Zones in Sweden" you would learn that there are essentially lawless areas where the police concedes that they have indeed lost control. So "segregated" is the right word.

pavlov 10y ago
You linked to a blog post with a large illustration depicting a "typical leftist Internet troll". I've spent over 30 years of my life in Nordic countries. These stories of embedded lawless mini-Afghanistans ruled by local Sharia tyrants don't reflect any reality I've ever seen.
- jazzyk 10y ago
  No one is claiming that they are "lawless mini-Afghanistans" in Sweden, as you stated. (from the article I linked to: "To the best of my knowledge, there are no Shariah patrols in Sweden.") But there is enough evidence to state that there is segregation. "Segregation (noun): the action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart."
Kurtz79 10y ago
It depends to whom you ask. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/01/paris-mayor-to-sue-fox-over-no-go-zone-comments/384656/ http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/01/par... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-14/debunking-the-muslim-nogo-zone-myth http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-14/debunking-... The source article from the blog states "In the autumn of 2014 reported the National Police for 55 neighborhoods in 22 cities around the country where "local criminal networks is considered to have a negative impact on the local community." It's about neighborhoods that are characterized by "open drug sales, criminal dealings that manifests itself in serious violence in a public place, various forms of extortion and unlawful influence and acting out grievances against society." The blog post you mention (the author makes no mystery of his ideas), and the source article, seems to take an official report stating that 55 zones have seen a worrying rise in crime and mixing it with anecdotal evidence and unrelated quotes to come to the conclusion that there are 55 "no-go" zones where "swedish law no longer applies", to spin a particular story for their readers. Mind, I'm not claiming liberal leaning press is any different and, as with everything, the truth probably stands somewhere in between.
ObeyTheGuts 10y ago
I have traveled all over europe ON FOOT, which usually means i walk trough all sorts of hoods, never ever even once i was in place where i would say its a No-Go, then i visited my aunt in florida for a month and experienced robbery at a gun point, prostitute harassing me, and 'what u looking at' comments, from my experience usa is worse than third world as iv been to morocco and mauritania and senegal and had great experience with free hospital care.

by jazzyk 10y ago

pavlov 10y ago

You linked to a blog post with a large illustration depicting a "typical leftist Internet troll". I've spent over 30 years of my life in Nordic countries. These stories of embedded lawless mini-Afghanistans ruled by local Sharia tyrants don't reflect any reality I've ever seen.

jazzyk 10y ago
No one is claiming that they are "lawless mini-Afghanistans" in Sweden, as you stated. (from the article I linked to: "To the best of my knowledge, there are no Shariah patrols in Sweden.") But there is enough evidence to state that there is segregation. "Segregation (noun): the action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart."

Kurtz79 10y ago

It depends to whom you ask. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/01/paris-mayor-to-sue-fox-over-no-go-zone-comments/384656/ http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/01/par... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-14/debunking-the-muslim-nogo-zone-myth http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-14/debunking-... The source article from the blog states "In the autumn of 2014 reported the National Police for 55 neighborhoods in 22 cities around the country where "local criminal networks is considered to have a negative impact on the local community." It's about neighborhoods that are characterized by "open drug sales, criminal dealings that manifests itself in serious violence in a public place, various forms of extortion and unlawful influence and acting out grievances against society." The blog post you mention (the author makes no mystery of his ideas), and the source article, seems to take an official report stating that 55 zones have seen a worrying rise in crime and mixing it with anecdotal evidence and unrelated quotes to come to the conclusion that there are 55 "no-go" zones where "swedish law no longer applies", to spin a particular story for their readers. Mind, I'm not claiming liberal leaning press is any different and, as with everything, the truth probably stands somewhere in between.

ObeyTheGuts 10y ago

I have traveled all over europe ON FOOT, which usually means i walk trough all sorts of hoods, never ever even once i was in place where i would say its a No-Go, then i visited my aunt in florida for a month and experienced robbery at a gun point, prostitute harassing me, and 'what u looking at' comments, from my experience usa is worse than third world as iv been to morocco and mauritania and senegal and had great experience with free hospital care.