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The requirements this young couple have is mind boggling. The have 111 sq meters and think they cannot have a kid in this space? A lot of my friends live in ~40

by tener 10y ago

The requirements this young couple have is mind boggling. The have 111 sq meters and think they cannot have a kid in this space? A lot of my friends live in ~40 sq meters and are happy to have their own place at all. With a kid, even two. Surely they would like to move to a bigger places, but this isn't a showstopper. They would love to have 111 sq meters place. Rising prices of properties is a real issue, but this particular couple is way above the standards I am used to. What is the socially accepted minimal living standard for a couple with kids in the US / Canada?

linkregister 10y ago
Fair enough, it's more space than I have for two children. It's a bad example that trivializes the actual extreme difficulty Vancouver families face getting affordable housing.
thatfrenchguy 10y ago
Where I'm from 111 sq meters condo is a "you have a really high income and three kids but will never be able to buy it" kind of thing.
xemdetia 10y ago
> What is the socially accepted minimal living standard for a couple with kids in the US / Canada? A lot of this comes from the expectation of what you had growing up versus what is available in your current situation, and how much you actually want kids. Do you want to bring up kids from 0 to 18+ in that same 111 sq meter space? The answer can be no for a few people, and people aren't seeing that they can move to something bigger even if it becomes necessary. It's also not a good idea to compare floor space 1:1 across regions, floor layouts and building structure can have big impacts. 40 sq m used well can have the same level of comfort as 111 sq m used poorly, but because of various property restrictions (since it's not detached) they might not be able to modify the 111 sq m space in a meaningful way. The main thing here in this case is that the couple represented have the choice of whether or not to have kids and they see the environment as not good for it. This is the sort of thing that happens when educated people sit down and consider whether or not having kids is the right plan for the moment.

by tener 10y ago

linkregister 10y ago

Fair enough, it's more space than I have for two children. It's a bad example that trivializes the actual extreme difficulty Vancouver families face getting affordable housing.

thatfrenchguy 10y ago

Where I'm from 111 sq meters condo is a "you have a really high income and three kids but will never be able to buy it" kind of thing.

xemdetia 10y ago

> What is the socially accepted minimal living standard for a couple with kids in the US / Canada? A lot of this comes from the expectation of what you had growing up versus what is available in your current situation, and how much you actually want kids. Do you want to bring up kids from 0 to 18+ in that same 111 sq meter space? The answer can be no for a few people, and people aren't seeing that they can move to something bigger even if it becomes necessary. It's also not a good idea to compare floor space 1:1 across regions, floor layouts and building structure can have big impacts. 40 sq m used well can have the same level of comfort as 111 sq m used poorly, but because of various property restrictions (since it's not detached) they might not be able to modify the 111 sq m space in a meaningful way. The main thing here in this case is that the couple represented have the choice of whether or not to have kids and they see the environment as not good for it. This is the sort of thing that happens when educated people sit down and consider whether or not having kids is the right plan for the moment.