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> “I am literally sick to my stomach,” wrote group member Carolyn Farino. It was a stupid comment, how can a stupid comment like that induce sickness in anothe

by voidr 10y ago

> “I am literally sick to my stomach,” wrote group member Carolyn Farino. It was a stupid comment, how can a stupid comment like that induce sickness in another human being? Make a joke about typical male stereotypes, nobody bats an eye, make a bad joke involving females, the feminist lynch mob goes into action. Let's assume in a fashion show a women CEO would have made a similar stupid comment to a male, would we see such a male outrage? No.

tehwebguy 10y ago
Ok cool so Huang can tell women what they know, and you can tell them how to feel.
- tutts 10y ago
  She's claiming a physical reaction, not an emotional one. While we can't know if she's feeling nauseous, it's perfectly reasonable to doubt her conclusion that this is caused by Huang's statement.
  - corecoder 10y ago
    Do we know better than her how she feels and why?
    - daenz 10y ago
      Whenever you ask a question, I feel physically sick. Please stop asking questions. And don't question me.
xorcist 10y ago
> would we see such a male outrage? Pretty much the whole Internet consists of male outrage. That and cats.
corecoder 10y ago
> Make a joke about typical male stereotypes, nobody bats an eye I'm starting to think that maybe this is a problem. Maybe we should stop tolerating male stereotypes. Edit: typo.
- lostlogin 10y ago
  It's not a great thing, sure. But how about a different power imbalance situation. You go to a doctor. The doctor makes a joke "you patients have no idea..." Or similar. The power imbalance there is obvious to anyone. You making a joke about the doctor is different. Power imbalance makes some things less acceptable when its to your advantage. Power imbalance due to gender is generally harder to detect when male.
  - corecoder 10y ago
    Totally agree about power imbalance; stereotyping (and belittling in general) someone from a position of more perceived power is of course worse, no doubt about that. But parent's point was along the lines of: women can't take jokes as men do, men are such sports! The most important objection is of course that stereotypes about men don't actually harm men, while stereotypes about women do often harm women, but I also wanted to point out that men being such sports is not necessarily a great thing.
jnevill 10y ago
What is it with folks that fail to appreciate the power imbalance in society and how that makes it impossible to flip the genders in a situation to prove sexism doesn't exist. It's nuts. Hi is words were deeply offensive even with the most charitable perspective... That it was just a joke. The not-pology was icing on the crappy cake, "I'm sorry that you were wrong in your interpretation of my words". This is just sad and oblivious.
gone35 10y ago
It was a stupid comment, how can a stupid comment like that induce sickness in another human being? It's called the sympathetic nervous system[1]. Enough deeply-felt outrage will do. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system
pandler 10y ago
> I am literally sick to my stomach > I feel like I was just stabbed in the chest. Placing this particular incident aside, this kind of hyperbolic speech seems pretty common in comment threads across the internet. It's a lot more dramatic and antagonizing than simply saying "I'm outraged!", and it certainly isn't unique to "the feminist lynch mob". This observation very well just be confirmation bias on my part.

by voidr 10y ago

tehwebguy 10y ago

Ok cool so Huang can tell women what they know, and you can tell them how to feel.

tutts 10y ago
She's claiming a physical reaction, not an emotional one. While we can't know if she's feeling nauseous, it's perfectly reasonable to doubt her conclusion that this is caused by Huang's statement.
- corecoder 10y ago
  Do we know better than her how she feels and why?
  - daenz 10y ago
    Whenever you ask a question, I feel physically sick. Please stop asking questions. And don't question me.

xorcist 10y ago

> would we see such a male outrage? Pretty much the whole Internet consists of male outrage. That and cats.

corecoder 10y ago

> Make a joke about typical male stereotypes, nobody bats an eye I'm starting to think that maybe this is a problem. Maybe we should stop tolerating male stereotypes. Edit: typo.

lostlogin 10y ago
It's not a great thing, sure. But how about a different power imbalance situation. You go to a doctor. The doctor makes a joke "you patients have no idea..." Or similar. The power imbalance there is obvious to anyone. You making a joke about the doctor is different. Power imbalance makes some things less acceptable when its to your advantage. Power imbalance due to gender is generally harder to detect when male.
- corecoder 10y ago
  Totally agree about power imbalance; stereotyping (and belittling in general) someone from a position of more perceived power is of course worse, no doubt about that. But parent's point was along the lines of: women can't take jokes as men do, men are such sports! The most important objection is of course that stereotypes about men don't actually harm men, while stereotypes about women do often harm women, but I also wanted to point out that men being such sports is not necessarily a great thing.

jnevill 10y ago

What is it with folks that fail to appreciate the power imbalance in society and how that makes it impossible to flip the genders in a situation to prove sexism doesn't exist. It's nuts. Hi is words were deeply offensive even with the most charitable perspective... That it was just a joke. The not-pology was icing on the crappy cake, "I'm sorry that you were wrong in your interpretation of my words". This is just sad and oblivious.

gone35 10y ago

It was a stupid comment, how can a stupid comment like that induce sickness in another human being? It's called the sympathetic nervous system[1]. Enough deeply-felt outrage will do. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system

pandler 10y ago

> I am literally sick to my stomach > I feel like I was just stabbed in the chest. Placing this particular incident aside, this kind of hyperbolic speech seems pretty common in comment threads across the internet. It's a lot more dramatic and antagonizing than simply saying "I'm outraged!", and it certainly isn't unique to "the feminist lynch mob". This observation very well just be confirmation bias on my part.