> We don’t need your Internet. There is no way we can make money on it. We don’t want to be just dumb pipes! Is the whole argument (from the telecoms) here tha

> We don’t need your Internet. There is no way we can make money on it. We don’t want to be just dumb pipes! Is the whole argument (from the telecoms) here that they can't differentiate the service as dumb pipes? Like offering decent speeds (1 Gbps … please? Heck, even 100 Mbps for not an insane price), decent service (customer support that knows what "ping" or "latency" means? Not requiring weeks of back-and-forth with customer support to debug issues?), IPv6 support[1], a router that routes corner cases[2], optionally paying for a static IPv4 address[3], being able to reverse DNS my IP to a name of my choosing, no "no servers" BS in the agreement, not MitM'ing data[4], not selling my data[5]? Some of this is perhaps them not being dumb pipes: I could purchase my own modem; the "no servers" and MitM'ing are directly not being a dumb pipe. [1]: I finally have this as a Comcast customer. My parents (also Comcast) are still waiting. [2]: My router fails at correctly routing packets bound for its public IP if they originate inside the private LAN and are bound for a destination under port forwarding. Comcast considers a router not exhibiting this bug a "feature" called "NAT loopback" … which they don't support.) [3]: my understanding is that Comcast does not offer this to residential; they do to business class, but this hampers people like me that love experimenting, but aren't businesses. [4]: Most ISPs intercept at least DNS queries and respond with forged results (to serve ads); this can cause software to fail with error codes different from the actual problem (because the ads mask the underlying issue). [5]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/att-selling-data_n_3561263.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/att-selling-data_n_...