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This was a hostage situation. Was the 5 year old boy, not a hostage to his crazed, gun-wielding mother in this standoff? I love Monday morning quarterbacks.

throwaway201607 10y ago
>I love Monday morning quarterbacks. honest question, what does this mean?
- nocarrier 10y ago
  People who watch a football game Sunday night and then talk shit at work on Monday about all the things they would have done differently if they were coach/quarterback/etc.
- chipperyman573 10y ago
  Might have something to do with this[0] >The definition of a Monday morning quarterback is someone who is always criticizing and saying how he would have done something better or differently after the event has passed. [0] http://www.yourdictionary.com/monday-morning-quarterback http://www.yourdictionary.com/monday-morning-quarterback
- vermontdevil 10y ago
  Same meaning as hindsight is 20/20.
- dghughes 10y ago
  It's a polite way of calling someone a know-it-all.
- nstj 10y ago
  > Monday morning quarterback: A person who analyzes the mistakes they made they day after they've made them. Derived from complaining over quarterbacks on monday morning after the sunday game. [0] [0]: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monday%20morning%20quarterback http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monday%20morn...
panic 10y ago
The police could have left her alone and come back later. They were in her house, and she was only threatening to harm the officers, not her child.
- HelloImDumb 10y ago
  Again, I love that Monday morning quarterbacking. Crazed gunman? Come back later. Crazed gunman with a kid? Come back later. Crazed fugitive gunman with a warrant out, with a kid, threatening to kill police? Let them settle down, come back later. There was outrage in my town over a standoff with a guy (with kids) who was having attempted to be served on him by the cops for the dozenth time after a year on the lam, for driving drunk and unlicensed while out on bail for a previous serial drunk-driving arrest. He shot at the cops, screamed that he wouldn't be taken alive, and the cops secured the area, and the guy shot himself in the head. People said they should have left and come back later. Makes a lot of sense.
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  - donatj 10y ago
    Answer me this. Honestly. Is people getting served really more important than people's lives?
    - tedunangst 10y ago
      If he's a serial drunk driver, that may be the same thing.
    - labster 10y ago
      That's basically the balance that government makes, with the answer typically being "sometimes". Is people's electricity service more important than people who die from air pollution? Is getting on an airplane one hour faster more important than people who die from terrorism? There are no easy answers.
erdevs 10y ago
Are you saying that I'm Monday morning quarterbacking? I was trying to ask questions and share possible approaches, without saying anything definitively prescriptive. A Monday Morning Quarterback doesn't leave a lot of question or uncertainty. That's the kind of the point. They take potshots post facto and frame what "should've" been done as obvious or what happened as ridiculous/blatantly stupid. I don't see how my comment can reasonably be read that way. I'd ask that you either explain your rude remark in rational terms, or apologize if you don't think you have a great rationale.
- Grishnakh 10y ago
  Well, his username is "HelloImDumb"....
erdevs 10y ago
I don't know. Is a child under their mother's care considered a hostage in standoff circumstances? I have no idea. And note that my question was on whether it being a hostage situation should affect the policy or not... so I'm open to the possibility that it was, obviously. Also, you didn't at all address the question about whether it makes sense to stop streamings in the event of a police encounter or not. If not, when shouldn't it be allowed? I think, at least in many states, you do have the right to record police encounters, especially if it's on your own private property or in a public place. But maybe I'm mistaken? Perhaps you can read more carefully, think more carefully, behave more civilly, and try again.

throwaway201607 10y ago

>I love Monday morning quarterbacks. honest question, what does this mean?

nocarrier 10y ago
People who watch a football game Sunday night and then talk shit at work on Monday about all the things they would have done differently if they were coach/quarterback/etc.
chipperyman573 10y ago
Might have something to do with this[0] >The definition of a Monday morning quarterback is someone who is always criticizing and saying how he would have done something better or differently after the event has passed. [0] http://www.yourdictionary.com/monday-morning-quarterback http://www.yourdictionary.com/monday-morning-quarterback
vermontdevil 10y ago
Same meaning as hindsight is 20/20.
dghughes 10y ago
It's a polite way of calling someone a know-it-all.
nstj 10y ago
> Monday morning quarterback: A person who analyzes the mistakes they made they day after they've made them. Derived from complaining over quarterbacks on monday morning after the sunday game. [0] [0]: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monday%20morning%20quarterback http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monday%20morn...

panic 10y ago

The police could have left her alone and come back later. They were in her house, and she was only threatening to harm the officers, not her child.

HelloImDumb 10y ago
Again, I love that Monday morning quarterbacking. Crazed gunman? Come back later. Crazed gunman with a kid? Come back later. Crazed fugitive gunman with a warrant out, with a kid, threatening to kill police? Let them settle down, come back later. There was outrage in my town over a standoff with a guy (with kids) who was having attempted to be served on him by the cops for the dozenth time after a year on the lam, for driving drunk and unlicensed while out on bail for a previous serial drunk-driving arrest. He shot at the cops, screamed that he wouldn't be taken alive, and the cops secured the area, and the guy shot himself in the head. People said they should have left and come back later. Makes a lot of sense.
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- donatj 10y ago
  Answer me this. Honestly. Is people getting served really more important than people's lives?
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    If he's a serial drunk driver, that may be the same thing.
  - labster 10y ago
    That's basically the balance that government makes, with the answer typically being "sometimes". Is people's electricity service more important than people who die from air pollution? Is getting on an airplane one hour faster more important than people who die from terrorism? There are no easy answers.

erdevs 10y ago

Are you saying that I'm Monday morning quarterbacking? I was trying to ask questions and share possible approaches, without saying anything definitively prescriptive. A Monday Morning Quarterback doesn't leave a lot of question or uncertainty. That's the kind of the point. They take potshots post facto and frame what "should've" been done as obvious or what happened as ridiculous/blatantly stupid. I don't see how my comment can reasonably be read that way. I'd ask that you either explain your rude remark in rational terms, or apologize if you don't think you have a great rationale.

Grishnakh 10y ago
Well, his username is "HelloImDumb"....

erdevs 10y ago

I don't know. Is a child under their mother's care considered a hostage in standoff circumstances? I have no idea. And note that my question was on whether it being a hostage situation should affect the policy or not... so I'm open to the possibility that it was, obviously. Also, you didn't at all address the question about whether it makes sense to stop streamings in the event of a police encounter or not. If not, when shouldn't it be allowed? I think, at least in many states, you do have the right to record police encounters, especially if it's on your own private property or in a public place. But maybe I'm mistaken? Perhaps you can read more carefully, think more carefully, behave more civilly, and try again.