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I have experienced this as well. Quick story. Before I took this advice, I made the mistake of telling a recruiter my salary, and then the recruiter said, yea
by bargl 10y ago
I have experienced this as well.
Quick story. Before I took this advice, I made the mistake of telling a recruiter my salary, and then the recruiter said, yeah I'm not going to give you a 20K raise. The guys on that team were great and the compensation was actually viable, but it was not a good fit overall.
I think any negotiation where you want to walk away with the best deal you have to be willing to let a job go. It's when you want something so bad that you start to loose perspective and take a really bad deal. I say this from personal experience. When I have wanted something really bad I negotiate poorly, but when I come at it from a take it or leave it position I am almost always more happy with the result. It's really hard advice to follow when you really need/want a job especially if it's a big name like Uber.
This advice is also VERY dependent on you being able to negotiate. If the market is down and you can't find a job, you may end up in the 5th interview you don't get because you refused to disclose and guess what? This tactic isn't working. Adapt to the market, but use any leverage you have to secure the best position you can for yourself at a place you will be happy.
I've gone through 4 employers in 4.5 years and I have loved 2 of the last 4. Those were the ones I took because I had time to decide and really vetted them out. I had the power in the negotiations and I stacked the deck in my favor. They were also the biggest pay bumps I'd received.
- teach 10y agoIf you don't mind my asking, if you "loved" two of the places you have worked why have you been through four employers in 4-1/2 years? I love my current employer, which is why I have stayed there 19 years.
- PhasmaFelis 10y agoThe tech jobs I've worked have ended roughly thus: Company went under Short-term contract for specific task Department downsized Short-term contract for specific task Department downsized Short-term contract for specific task Short-term contract for specific task I have never quit a job since finishing school. I'd have loved to stay on at several of those places for the rest of my career, but that's not how most of the industry works these days. If you've been able to stay at a job you love for 19 years, you're very lucky.
- pc86 10y agoEven with quick promotions, you are much more likely to end up with a higher salary by moving jobs every 1.5-3 years. I'm 30 and the longest I've been at a job is 21 months. It's never been brought up as a negative and I've got plenty of experience across multiple business domains and companies.
- PhasmaFelis 10y agoYeah, it's pretty much taken as normal these days. I'd still rather have job stability than a sky-high salary, if I was given the choice.
- bargl 10y agoOne the contract ended. The other I'm still at.
- lukejduncan 10y agoI used to be super intimidated by negotiation. I recently took a Coursera course that I highly recommend https://www.coursera.org/learn/negotiation https://www.coursera.org/learn/negotiation. It's not specific to negotiating job offers, but it helped me become a lot more comfortable with the process just to have a framework to think about the whole thing in. It's a really well put together course too.