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This was a well-written story but I could've done without: A. The "MARIJUANA, THAT DEVIL WEED, STARTED HIS DESCENT INTO HELL" routine. and B. The "truth" ant

This was a well-written story but I could've done without: A. The "MARIJUANA, THAT DEVIL WEED, STARTED HIS DESCENT INTO HELL" routine. and B. The "truth" anti-drug ad campaign-style video overlays

DanBC 10y ago
A ridiculous over-reaction to a bit of biographical detail.
- gravypod 10y ago
  I'd not call this an over reaction. This part of the story, no matter how true, will be used to smear pot users in the future. People will look at the original drug as the cause when in reality there are probably many more possible things that could be associated with the cause. This sort of thing becomes played out after time. "It's not the person's fault! It's that they used this devil plant"
gedy 10y ago
Frankly, virtually everyone I've known who ended up in drug 'hell' did start with pot; so while correlation does not equal causation, the belief or concern it's a gateway drug really should not be mocked. Questioning, debating, fine - but mocking people's concern, is frequently about friends and family who are in trouble.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Frankly, virtually everyone I've known who ended up in drug 'hell' did start with pot Funny, everyone I've known who ended up in drug "hell" started with either tobacco or alcohol. Which means just as much nothing as yours... > so while correlation does not equal causation, the belief or concern it's a gateway drug really should not be mocked. Anecdote ("virtually everyone I've known...") doesn't equal meaningful correlation in the general population, much less causation. And "people who end up in drug hell are likely to have used X drug in the past" is the wrong correlation, anyway, to support "dangerous gateway drug" claims (even leaving aside the need to move from correlation to causation.) You really want "people who use X drug are likely to go on to end up in drug hell".
  - gedy 10y ago
    Fair enough, but as I mentioned, I'm addressing your moralizing tone about it, not your belief.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      > I'm addressing your moralizing tone about it, not your belief. My response to your post was my first post in this thread, so I don't think you are addressing my anything.
      - gedy 10y ago
        Sure, confused you with OP
narrator 10y ago
The thing about marijuana is it doesn't do serious organ damage over time like alcohol, opiates or cigarettes will. I'd always take medical marijuana for chronic pain vs prescription opiates.

This was a well-written story but I could've done without: A. The "MARIJUANA, THAT DEVIL WEED, STARTED HIS DESCENT INTO HELL" routine. and B. The "truth" anti-drug ad campaign-style video overlays

DanBC 10y ago

A ridiculous over-reaction to a bit of biographical detail.

gravypod 10y ago
I'd not call this an over reaction. This part of the story, no matter how true, will be used to smear pot users in the future. People will look at the original drug as the cause when in reality there are probably many more possible things that could be associated with the cause. This sort of thing becomes played out after time. "It's not the person's fault! It's that they used this devil plant"

gedy 10y ago

Frankly, virtually everyone I've known who ended up in drug 'hell' did start with pot; so while correlation does not equal causation, the belief or concern it's a gateway drug really should not be mocked. Questioning, debating, fine - but mocking people's concern, is frequently about friends and family who are in trouble.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> Frankly, virtually everyone I've known who ended up in drug 'hell' did start with pot Funny, everyone I've known who ended up in drug "hell" started with either tobacco or alcohol. Which means just as much nothing as yours... > so while correlation does not equal causation, the belief or concern it's a gateway drug really should not be mocked. Anecdote ("virtually everyone I've known...") doesn't equal meaningful correlation in the general population, much less causation. And "people who end up in drug hell are likely to have used X drug in the past" is the wrong correlation, anyway, to support "dangerous gateway drug" claims (even leaving aside the need to move from correlation to causation.) You really want "people who use X drug are likely to go on to end up in drug hell".
- gedy 10y ago
  Fair enough, but as I mentioned, I'm addressing your moralizing tone about it, not your belief.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > I'm addressing your moralizing tone about it, not your belief. My response to your post was my first post in this thread, so I don't think you are addressing my anything.
    - gedy 10y ago
      Sure, confused you with OP

narrator 10y ago

The thing about marijuana is it doesn't do serious organ damage over time like alcohol, opiates or cigarettes will. I'd always take medical marijuana for chronic pain vs prescription opiates.