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I hardly think underpaid engineers are the main problem with our economy. We could start by looking at, oh I dunno, teachers?
by llamataboot 10y ago
I hardly think underpaid engineers are the main problem with our economy. We could start by looking at, oh I dunno, teachers?
- deskamess 10y agoWhy not raise all deserving boats?
- markonthewall 10y agoSorry but the above poster does not handle parallel operations yet, come back for v2.
- merpnderp 10y agoUnderpaid relative to what? Oklahoma pays teachers crap, yet for every open position there are fully credentialed applicants willing to accept that salary. I wish everyone could make a million dollars a year, but as of yet the only fair way to set value for labor is a free market.
- llamataboot 10y agoYou're trained in something because you love it. You really want to do it, and you went to school for it, have experience in it. Someone gives you a choice -- you can do this for $XX/year or you can starve. The labor market is not as "free" as free-marketers make it out to be. I made a mid-career switch from social work to coding in part because of compensation, but it wasn't a friction-free switch. Also, my point was in response to the above poster who claimed that engineers were getting a fraction of what they deserved. By your metric, programmers are also getting what the market values them at. But by OPs metrics, I maintain that teachers create a lot more value than someone building another ad-tracker.
- aianus 10y agoIf you're doing it because you love it, then you should consider that joy/satisfaction as part of the comp package. A lot (most?) high-paying jobs are high-paying because people don't love doing them and they involve a lot of sacrifice. That's why they call it 'compensation'.
- llamataboot 10y agoThen maybe we should have a reverse auction for jobs? I can pretty much guarantee you'll need to pay more for someone to work in a mine than to push pencils in an office, for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_economics#Balanced_job_complexes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_economics#Balanc...
- vacri 10y ago> A lot (most?) high-paying jobs are high-paying because people don't love doing them That must be why call-center workers are all on six figures? Seriously, the people who least like their jobs are not the high-wagers, but the minimum-wagers.
- aianus 10y agoIt's stratified by your skillset of course. But within the same skillset, the higher paying jobs are usually the crappier jobs (longer hours, more stress, more physical discomfort, less job security, seasonal, etc.)