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I agree. Optimized pacing and pausing happens naturally when we read, but people nearly always talk way too slowly for me to learn effectively from videos, and

by jshevek 10y ago

I agree. Optimized pacing and pausing happens naturally when we read, but people nearly always talk way too slowly for me to learn effectively from videos, and pauses are never optimized for my personal needs. It isn't just a waste of time, I just can't learn effectively when the information is presented at the wrong pace. Have you tried using VLC for the bookmarking and frame-by-frame hot keys? I exclusively use VLC for watching educational videos, so I can tweak the playback speed to my needs, and also jump backwards easily to have material repeated. One day we may have video players that watch our faces and body language to intelligently guess the best pace of playback, and note the sections where we are confused for future study.

ivan_ah 10y ago
Yeah, I really like the video speed control for educational videos too. Curious, what speed do you normally use? 2x? more than 2x? Did you know about this app for controlling speed of any HTML5 video element https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-contro... ? I've recently started experimenting with uploading videos (math tutorials) to youtube already at 1.5x speed. I think my lessons become much more interesting, but some people said they really hate the 1.5x speed, and prefer to watch me talk slowly, so I don't know if 1.5x should be the default... Do you know other people who like to watch technical videos at 1.5x and 2x, or are we the exception?
- jshevek 10y ago
  I did not know about that HTML5 video speed controller, thank you for sharing that. > Curious, what speed do you normally use? 2x? more than 2x? It varies greatly depending on how fast the person talks normally, the difficulty/newness of the subject matter, and the way they phrase their sentences (useless filler words, or densely meaningful?) There are some videos where the person talks fast enough (on a topic new to me, without filler words) for me to listen comfortably at 1.0. At the other extreme if they talk exceptionally slowly, use lots of filler words, and the topic is easy or something I'm familiar with I may push it past 3.0. Also, if I'm reviewing videos I've already studied. With foreign languages I may slow it down to 0.7 or so. > Do you know other people who like to watch technical videos at 1.5x and 2x, or are we the exception? I just assumed everyone does this at some point in time, unless it hadn't occurred to them. I mean, we all skim books that we've already studied, don't we? Refreshing our memory and looking for things we need to revisit (at normal reading speed)? Wouldn't everyone also want to 'skim' the videos they've already watched instead of re-watching at normal speed?
LeanderK 10y ago
I agree with you, its more efficient. For university i learn from the script and slides (and sometimes books). But i also think its much more exhausting. I play the video tutorials when i am in bed before i sleep (or while sleeping :) ). They are way more relaxed, i don't have to pay that much attention. For me most of the time its a tradeoff between learning a bit and learning nothing. I also get excited from watching the videos and can start doing toy-projects. And while books are a good way to get a gasp of the language, it think the only way to really learn a language is to use it. Thats one similarity between programming languages and "real" foreign languages.

by jshevek 10y ago

ivan_ah 10y ago

Yeah, I really like the video speed control for educational videos too. Curious, what speed do you normally use? 2x? more than 2x? Did you know about this app for controlling speed of any HTML5 video element https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-contro... ? I've recently started experimenting with uploading videos (math tutorials) to youtube already at 1.5x speed. I think my lessons become much more interesting, but some people said they really hate the 1.5x speed, and prefer to watch me talk slowly, so I don't know if 1.5x should be the default... Do you know other people who like to watch technical videos at 1.5x and 2x, or are we the exception?

jshevek 10y ago
I did not know about that HTML5 video speed controller, thank you for sharing that. > Curious, what speed do you normally use? 2x? more than 2x? It varies greatly depending on how fast the person talks normally, the difficulty/newness of the subject matter, and the way they phrase their sentences (useless filler words, or densely meaningful?) There are some videos where the person talks fast enough (on a topic new to me, without filler words) for me to listen comfortably at 1.0. At the other extreme if they talk exceptionally slowly, use lots of filler words, and the topic is easy or something I'm familiar with I may push it past 3.0. Also, if I'm reviewing videos I've already studied. With foreign languages I may slow it down to 0.7 or so. > Do you know other people who like to watch technical videos at 1.5x and 2x, or are we the exception? I just assumed everyone does this at some point in time, unless it hadn't occurred to them. I mean, we all skim books that we've already studied, don't we? Refreshing our memory and looking for things we need to revisit (at normal reading speed)? Wouldn't everyone also want to 'skim' the videos they've already watched instead of re-watching at normal speed?

LeanderK 10y ago

I agree with you, its more efficient. For university i learn from the script and slides (and sometimes books). But i also think its much more exhausting. I play the video tutorials when i am in bed before i sleep (or while sleeping :) ). They are way more relaxed, i don't have to pay that much attention. For me most of the time its a tradeoff between learning a bit and learning nothing. I also get excited from watching the videos and can start doing toy-projects. And while books are a good way to get a gasp of the language, it think the only way to really learn a language is to use it. Thats one similarity between programming languages and "real" foreign languages.