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In Europe we have "This site uses cookies" popups. Not browser based, not asking for permission, but, universally they are annoying. It depends on your definit

by return0 10y ago

In Europe we have "This site uses cookies" popups. Not browser based, not asking for permission, but, universally they are annoying. It depends on your definition of 'sensitive data' i guess. I mean, i have noticed the HN crowd to be trigger happy against paywall popups, imagine if you prevent them from getting to their favorite site every time.

gedrap 10y ago
As someone who lives in Europe and faced hundreds of them, I've developed total blindness to them, so they hardly have any value at all. Good intentions, poor implementation.
Tharkun 10y ago
I use a browser extension that gets rid of the vast majority of them. Cookies are the wrong target, and the EU knows it. It's a matter of wanting to be seen doing something, rather than actually doing something useful. Their grasp on technology is ridiculously poor.
adrianN 10y ago
I like the cookie popups that have a "I don't want cookies" button that only works when cookies are enabled.
zeveb 10y ago
The whole cookie popup thing is so stupid: a user already has the ability to instruct his browser to allow or deny cookies. Adding a bit of HTML and JavaScript regarding cookies is a layering violation.
jimlei 10y ago
How is the law in your country for cookie handling? In Norway we have no laws actually requiring web sites to have popups like that but they still use them for some reason.
- CiaranMcNulty 10y ago
  Because they might get EU visitors
- Sylos 10y ago
  The law he's talking about is enforced by the EU, so it's the same across most of Europe. And the website-owners probably just didn't put an exception in for Norway...
Sylos 10y ago
Sort of a different thing, though, as it's not "Allow Cookies?", but rather "We use Cookies. Stop using our service, if you don't like that.".
captainmuon 10y ago
The worst is not that they are annoying, it is that I have to give explicit permission to use cookies. I am OK with them using cookies, but I don't want to give them permission. I'd like to leave it a grey area. They can use cookies all day long. If I don't grant them permission, then I can accept it, but complain about it. But if I click "allow", I feel that they take away my moral right to complain about it. It's like being pat down / searched by the police. It is annoying, but I'd let it happen, because they probably have good reasons to do it - but I'd still be grumpy about it, and if it happens too often, I'd protest. But if I had to sign a waiver that gave them explicit permission to do so, then I'd have a much worse standing if I wanted to complain. Does anyone understand what I mean?
- return0 10y ago
  Yes , its like the transgender bathroom debate in a way ;)
- Sylos 10y ago
  I do the same. It's definitely irrational, but I often even leave a site, if it wants me to click "Agree" on some (Cookie-)dialog, before I can use the site. I've also come to hate "truste", whatever company/CDN/thing that is, solely because their Cookie-dialog is one of those offenders that I see the most.

by return0 10y ago

gedrap 10y ago

As someone who lives in Europe and faced hundreds of them, I've developed total blindness to them, so they hardly have any value at all. Good intentions, poor implementation.

Tharkun 10y ago

I use a browser extension that gets rid of the vast majority of them. Cookies are the wrong target, and the EU knows it. It's a matter of wanting to be seen doing something, rather than actually doing something useful. Their grasp on technology is ridiculously poor.

adrianN 10y ago

I like the cookie popups that have a "I don't want cookies" button that only works when cookies are enabled.

zeveb 10y ago

The whole cookie popup thing is so stupid: a user already has the ability to instruct his browser to allow or deny cookies. Adding a bit of HTML and JavaScript regarding cookies is a layering violation.

jimlei 10y ago

How is the law in your country for cookie handling? In Norway we have no laws actually requiring web sites to have popups like that but they still use them for some reason.

CiaranMcNulty 10y ago
Because they might get EU visitors
Sylos 10y ago
The law he's talking about is enforced by the EU, so it's the same across most of Europe. And the website-owners probably just didn't put an exception in for Norway...

Sylos 10y ago

Sort of a different thing, though, as it's not "Allow Cookies?", but rather "We use Cookies. Stop using our service, if you don't like that.".

captainmuon 10y ago

The worst is not that they are annoying, it is that I have to give explicit permission to use cookies. I am OK with them using cookies, but I don't want to give them permission. I'd like to leave it a grey area. They can use cookies all day long. If I don't grant them permission, then I can accept it, but complain about it. But if I click "allow", I feel that they take away my moral right to complain about it. It's like being pat down / searched by the police. It is annoying, but I'd let it happen, because they probably have good reasons to do it - but I'd still be grumpy about it, and if it happens too often, I'd protest. But if I had to sign a waiver that gave them explicit permission to do so, then I'd have a much worse standing if I wanted to complain. Does anyone understand what I mean?

return0 10y ago
Yes , its like the transgender bathroom debate in a way ;)
Sylos 10y ago
I do the same. It's definitely irrational, but I often even leave a site, if it wants me to click "Agree" on some (Cookie-)dialog, before I can use the site. I've also come to hate "truste", whatever company/CDN/thing that is, solely because their Cookie-dialog is one of those offenders that I see the most.