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It doesn't make much sense to be honest. I've heard about this browser a few times now and I still have no idea how is it supposed to gain traction. The perform
by Mahn 10y ago
It doesn't make much sense to be honest. I've heard about this browser a few times now and I still have no idea how is it supposed to gain traction. The performance/bandwidth benefits of less shitty ads can be had by simply disabling flash and using an ad blocker, and otherwise average people just aren't going to care to switch. As far as I can tell the only reason investors threw $7M at them is because Brendan Eich is involved.
- dman 10y agoDisabling javascript takes it one step further.
- forgotpwtomain 10y agoWhich breaks HTTP DELETE since HTML5 doesn't have support for it..
- PeCaN 10y agoHow so? <form method="post" action="..."> <input type="hidden" name="_method" value="DELETE"/> </form> has been the standard workaround since like… 2005, if not earlier, and works quite fine without JavaScript (assuming your server-side supports it, and most or all common frameworks do).
- forgotpwtomain 10y agoThat's a workaround only if the server forges the value of '_method' into method via. Middleware
- PeCaN 10y ago> assuming your server-side supports it, and most or all common frameworks do
- MichaelGG 10y agoSeriously, who cares? POST /deleteThing. Done.
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- dman 10y agoI dont care about brokenness - allowing arbitrary sites to run javascript / store cookies has begun to feel like running windows without a password in the 90s. When things break, I now stop using the website. In rare cases I add it to a whitelist.
- jcoffland 10y agoI don't see how there is any honesty in watching ads. You seem to be implying that I, as an Internet user, have agreed to view ads in return for content and that I'm being dishonest by not viewing the ads. I believe the reverse is true. Content providers promise content via hyperlinked text instead they dishonestly deliver content plus ads, something I did not agree to.
- st3v3r 10y agoI cannot agree to this. Your entire premise rests upon the idea that these people are creating content for you for free. That you are entitled to someone else's work for free.
- jcoffland 10y agoIs my attention worth nothing? Are my contributions in the form of comments without value? Regardless I never agreed to view ads in trade for access to content and to be completely fair it was not offered to me in this way. The usual offer is along the lines of "hey click this link you will like what you find there." This is a far cry from, "view these ads and we will provided you with content."
- st3v3r 10y ago"Is my attention worth nothing? Are my contributions in the form of comments without value?" Pretty much. You can't pay rent with "attention". It's just like the people that try to get designers to do work for free because of "exposure". "Regardless I never agreed to view ads in trade for access to content and to be completely fair it was not offered to me in this way." Yeah, you kinda did. This is the implicit agreement of the internet. If you don't like it, that's fine; there's nothing wrong with that. The point at which it does become wrong is, instead of going to some other website that doesn't do this, you continue to view the content, draining their bandwidth and resources, as though you are entitled to the content. If you don't want to view ads, go to sites that either offer content on a subscription basis and pay that, or on a donation basis.
- sp332 10y agoI want to support the sites I visit but I really dislike ads. I subscribe to a few but it would be a pain to set up individually for every site. Other people are also worried about being tracked online. This lets you conveniently support sites as you browse, without being tracked.
- icebraining 10y agoI wonder how can they pay the site you visit without tracking your visits to those sites. EDIT: apparently they use Anonize, that's interesting. https://anonize.org/assets/technology.html https://anonize.org/assets/technology.html
- sp332 10y agohttps://github.com/brave/ledger/blob/master/documentation/Ledger-Principles.md https://github.com/brave/ledger/blob/master/documentation/Le...
- zimbatm 10y agoBut why not just make a browser extension like everybody else? Surely adoption would be easier as well.
- ryanSrich 10y agoI don't doubt that some people would love to have this browser. I just fail to see how you build a billion dollar market around it.
- silverwind 10y agoWouldn't it be great if that money went into the Servo [1] project? We wouldn't have to rely on blocking content to speed up browsing. [1] https://servo.org/ https://servo.org/
- dingaling 10y agoServo only speeds-up browsing if you have a fairly recent GPU that supports it. Otherwise it doesn't run.
- azakai 10y ago> The performance/bandwidth benefits of less shitty ads can be had by simply disabling flash and using an ad blocker, and otherwise average people just aren't going to care to switch. I think the point is that average people wouldn't know how to get an ad blocker, but would notice the massive perf benefits of having one. A browser whose entire focus is on adblocking is therefore exactly what they would appreciate: out of the box, it works great. Of course for us tech people here, installing an ad blocker is easy, so it seems a little silly. But we are a tiny fraction of the market.
- drusepth 10y agoDefinitely seems that way to me. For those of us that intentionally don't use ad blockers, I see literally no reason to use this browser over anything else. I see lots of reasons (extensions, comparability, compatibility, support, etc) _not_ to use it, though.