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The tide is turning. Naughty Dog video game company (Uncharted, Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter) uses Racket as its scripting language now.

nikofeyn 10y ago
do you have a source for that? it's not that i don't believe you. it's that i am interested. :) i have seen that one powerpoint from a while back where they used their own scheme dialect to script things. but i thought i had read that when they moved to the ps4 they left that behind and used c++ tooling for the same needs.
- hellofunk 10y ago
  The scheme they have been using was PLT Scheme, which was renamed Racket.
  - nikofeyn 10y ago
    ahh. i know racket was plt scheme originally. but from my understanding, naughty dog was using their own lisp/scheme and now no longer uses that system. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp your comment made it sound like they had returned to using a lisp but had chosen to use racket this time around.
    - hellofunk 10y ago
      My understanding is that they are currently using Racket, but I don't work there. This is often mentioned in the Racket community, I think one of the ND engineers spoke at a lisp conference recently about it.
      - soegaard 10y ago
        Dan Liebgold: Racket on the Playstation 3? It's Not What you Think! Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSmqbnhHp1c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSmqbnhHp1c Slides: https://con.racket-lang.org/2013/danl-slides.pdf https://con.racket-lang.org/2013/danl-slides.pdf
    - lispm 10y ago
      Naughty Dog used a custom Scheme system for their early games. That one was written in Allegro Common Lisp. When they were bought by Sony, they abandoned their tools and moved on to C++, hoping to share code with the rest of Sony game developers. Didn't work out as wished. They brought Scheme back into their game development, but differently. For example: http://www.slideshare.net/naughty_dog/statebased-scripting-in-uncharted-2-among-thieves http://www.slideshare.net/naughty_dog/statebased-scripting-i...
      - nikofeyn 10y ago
        i have seen that presentation, but i am fairly certain i recall from an uncharted 4 chat with a naughty dog developer that they no longer use that system once they moved to the ps4. this is in large part, i believe, due to their being a technology developer for multiple sony studios.
        lispm 10y ago
        http://n4g.com/news/1268353/naughty-dog-will-use-existing-uncharted-the-last-of-us-engine-for-ps4 http://n4g.com/news/1268353/naughty-dog-will-use-existing-un...
      - hellofunk 10y ago
        That confirms that at least in 2009 they were using Racket.

nikofeyn 10y ago

do you have a source for that? it's not that i don't believe you. it's that i am interested. :) i have seen that one powerpoint from a while back where they used their own scheme dialect to script things. but i thought i had read that when they moved to the ps4 they left that behind and used c++ tooling for the same needs.

hellofunk 10y ago
The scheme they have been using was PLT Scheme, which was renamed Racket.
- nikofeyn 10y ago
  ahh. i know racket was plt scheme originally. but from my understanding, naughty dog was using their own lisp/scheme and now no longer uses that system. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp your comment made it sound like they had returned to using a lisp but had chosen to use racket this time around.
  - hellofunk 10y ago
    My understanding is that they are currently using Racket, but I don't work there. This is often mentioned in the Racket community, I think one of the ND engineers spoke at a lisp conference recently about it.
    - soegaard 10y ago
      Dan Liebgold: Racket on the Playstation 3? It's Not What you Think! Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSmqbnhHp1c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSmqbnhHp1c Slides: https://con.racket-lang.org/2013/danl-slides.pdf https://con.racket-lang.org/2013/danl-slides.pdf
  - lispm 10y ago
    Naughty Dog used a custom Scheme system for their early games. That one was written in Allegro Common Lisp. When they were bought by Sony, they abandoned their tools and moved on to C++, hoping to share code with the rest of Sony game developers. Didn't work out as wished. They brought Scheme back into their game development, but differently. For example: http://www.slideshare.net/naughty_dog/statebased-scripting-in-uncharted-2-among-thieves http://www.slideshare.net/naughty_dog/statebased-scripting-i...
    - nikofeyn 10y ago
      i have seen that presentation, but i am fairly certain i recall from an uncharted 4 chat with a naughty dog developer that they no longer use that system once they moved to the ps4. this is in large part, i believe, due to their being a technology developer for multiple sony studios.
      - lispm 10y ago
        http://n4g.com/news/1268353/naughty-dog-will-use-existing-uncharted-the-last-of-us-engine-for-ps4 http://n4g.com/news/1268353/naughty-dog-will-use-existing-un...
    - hellofunk 10y ago
      That confirms that at least in 2009 they were using Racket.