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By that definition HN is a keylogger...

• oceanswave 10y ago
  The difference is that the implicit contract is that HN is getting the keystrokes that I submit while this textbox has focus, like this text, but not when it doesn't, like the entire source to the death star that I just typed out after clicking outside this textbox. The contract that you opt-into and on-by-default on W10 indicates that if I clicked the desktop and proceeded to type the entire source to the death star, there is a possibility that all or part of those keystrokes would get sent to MS and possibly stored, even though I had no intention of communicating or transmitting that information.
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• Retric 10y ago
  HN does not collect keystrokes, I typed a word here "" erased it and that information was not sent to HN.
  • tedunangst 10y ago
    And if you typed that comment on Windows 10, would Microsoft know what word you typed?
    • scholia 10y ago
      No.
      • Retric 10y ago
        How else do you expect "as I type" to work? Do you think the OS is reading your mind so it knows ahead of time what your going to erase?
    • Retric 10y ago
      Yes, "offer better suggestions as I type" only works if you send information without waiting for a conformation." Now, this is not necessarily evil behavior. Analyzing things without conformation is how auto complete works. The question is it ok for Windows to do this as a default without making it clear that's the goal? Honestly, my fear is MS believes they have already lost the war due to Android and iOS being so dominate in other form factors. So, their goal is to extract as much money from people as possible even if they never buy another copy of windows again. For that to work they need to be selling something to third party's.