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> They want to shutdown support for all the remaining operating systems and push everyone onto Win10 as quickly as possible. They want to move everyone to Wind

by scholia 10y ago

> They want to shutdown support for all the remaining operating systems and push everyone onto Win10 as quickly as possible. They want to move everyone to Windows 10. This does not involve shutting down support for anything else. The support periods are published a long time ahead, and as you say yourself, Windows 7 will be supported until 2020. > Win10 is not going to be installed in any business that needs high data security either for operations or regulatory requirements like HIPPA or the SEC, etc. You appear to have missed the fact that the US Defense Department has already starting moving four million users to Windows 10 precisely because of the advanced security. I know banks and other organizations that are moving, too. DoD-Wide Windows 10 Rapid Deployment to Boost Cybersecurity By Cheryl Pellerin DoD News, Defense Media Activity http://www.defense.gov/-News-Article-View/Article/688721/dod-wide-windows-10-rapid-deployment-to-boost-cybersecurity http://www.defense.gov/-News-Article-View/Article/688721/dod...

eximius 10y ago
Enterprise windows is probably much, much better than the retail version in that admins have an incredible amount of control through GPOs and the like, including turning off many features that we dislike. That does not mean that it doesnt require a lot of work. And, we the little guys still get stuck with the retail version that makes it difficult to turn all of these options off in a central location with clear settings.
- scholia 10y ago
  Yes, they are much better and yes, you control things via GPOs. See https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.... > retail version that makes it difficult to turn all of these options off in a central location with clear settings. Just type privacy in the search box and go to the central location that has very clear settings. It's called "Privacy settings". It takes a minute or two, but it's not actually hard. (I'm now sorry I didn't time myself doing it.) It also provides excellent control over which apps can use your camera and microphone, and you can block all of them. You can go to "Speech, inking and typing" and click the button that says "Stop getting to know me" to turn off personalization. That page also has a link to privacy statements and a link to take you to Bing where you can delete any personalization info that has already been stored. It looks pretty clear to me. I'd also be interested if you can explain how this is any harder in Windows 10 than it is in Android or iOS.
dmfdmf 10y ago
I agree with eximius and would add that special versions (or treatment) available to the DoD, banks and other large orgs who have clout is clearly not what I was talking about. Also, my point with Win7 is the that, unlike WinXP, the termination date will not be extended by Microsoft regardless of the outcry. They view that as a mistake and its is counter to their new strategy of the OS as a marketing platform.
- scholia 10y ago
  > special versions (or treatment) available to the DoD, banks and other large orgs who have clout is clearly not what I was talking about What you said was: > Win10 is not going to be installed in any business that needs high data security either for operations or regulatory requirements like HIPPA or the SEC, etc. How on earth do you think you were not talking about "the DoD, banks and other large orgs"? If you're only talking about consumer versions of Windows 10, what is the point of mentioning HIPAA (it's not HIPPA) and the SEC? ;-)
  - dmfdmf 10y ago
    My points are clear to anyone trying to understand me.
    - scholia 10y ago
      I understood you perfectly well. I was just pointing out one of the obvious mistakes.
      - dmfdmf 10y ago
        So you are admitting that you are dishonest prick?
        scholia 10y ago
        Nope. I think you should look in a mirror. Either way, that's not an appropriate comment in this forum.
rpgmaker 10y ago
It's safe to say that whatever worries the DoD may have about Windows 10 are going to be readily addressed by MS but most people/businesses won't have that luxury.
oceanswave 10y ago
Doesn't seem like all is well with that plan. http://federalnewsradio.com/defense/2016/03/army-crashes-dods-windows-10-party/ http://federalnewsradio.com/defense/2016/03/army-crashes-dod...
- scholia 10y ago
  Agreed. I think the standard army acronym is SNAFU ;-)
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by scholia 10y ago

eximius 10y ago

Enterprise windows is probably much, much better than the retail version in that admins have an incredible amount of control through GPOs and the like, including turning off many features that we dislike. That does not mean that it doesnt require a lot of work. And, we the little guys still get stuck with the retail version that makes it difficult to turn all of these options off in a central location with clear settings.

scholia 10y ago
Yes, they are much better and yes, you control things via GPOs. See https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.... > retail version that makes it difficult to turn all of these options off in a central location with clear settings. Just type privacy in the search box and go to the central location that has very clear settings. It's called "Privacy settings". It takes a minute or two, but it's not actually hard. (I'm now sorry I didn't time myself doing it.) It also provides excellent control over which apps can use your camera and microphone, and you can block all of them. You can go to "Speech, inking and typing" and click the button that says "Stop getting to know me" to turn off personalization. That page also has a link to privacy statements and a link to take you to Bing where you can delete any personalization info that has already been stored. It looks pretty clear to me. I'd also be interested if you can explain how this is any harder in Windows 10 than it is in Android or iOS.

dmfdmf 10y ago

I agree with eximius and would add that special versions (or treatment) available to the DoD, banks and other large orgs who have clout is clearly not what I was talking about. Also, my point with Win7 is the that, unlike WinXP, the termination date will not be extended by Microsoft regardless of the outcry. They view that as a mistake and its is counter to their new strategy of the OS as a marketing platform.

scholia 10y ago
> special versions (or treatment) available to the DoD, banks and other large orgs who have clout is clearly not what I was talking about What you said was: > Win10 is not going to be installed in any business that needs high data security either for operations or regulatory requirements like HIPPA or the SEC, etc. How on earth do you think you were not talking about "the DoD, banks and other large orgs"? If you're only talking about consumer versions of Windows 10, what is the point of mentioning HIPAA (it's not HIPPA) and the SEC? ;-)
- dmfdmf 10y ago
  My points are clear to anyone trying to understand me.
  - scholia 10y ago
    I understood you perfectly well. I was just pointing out one of the obvious mistakes.
    - dmfdmf 10y ago
      So you are admitting that you are dishonest prick?
      - scholia 10y ago
        Nope. I think you should look in a mirror. Either way, that's not an appropriate comment in this forum.

rpgmaker 10y ago

It's safe to say that whatever worries the DoD may have about Windows 10 are going to be readily addressed by MS but most people/businesses won't have that luxury.

oceanswave 10y ago

Doesn't seem like all is well with that plan. http://federalnewsradio.com/defense/2016/03/army-crashes-dods-windows-10-party/ http://federalnewsradio.com/defense/2016/03/army-crashes-dod...

scholia 10y ago
Agreed. I think the standard army acronym is SNAFU ;-)
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