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I'm a computer scientist and software engineer with experience at some of the largest companies whose businesses are about making people click on ads. I now wor

by sp527 10y ago

I'm a computer scientist and software engineer with experience at some of the largest companies whose businesses are about making people click on ads. I now work as an independent contractor and part time on my own startups. Give me a living wage and tell me how I can help and I'm in. (srs) I think there are a lot of people who might feel the same way.

cryoshon 10y ago
step one is gaining political power, so find a campaign team and run on the platform of fixing climate change step one will take a good while then, step two: carbon tax at a rapacious rate. this will likely cause economic meltdown, which is unavoidable if we want to survive. step three is developing active methods of scrubbing our atmosphere of the shit we've polluted it with inventing that will take a while also anyways, let's get going.
taliesinb 10y ago
I feel the same way. As history has shown, when presented with an existential threat to the group, humans are often willing to drop their immediate plans and sign up to fight. Perhaps we're wired that way. Bring on UBI. And bring on a global 'war economy' to transition us to a zero carbon energy infrastructure.
- cryoshon 10y ago
  >And bring on a global 'war economy' to transition us to a zero carbon energy infrastructure. yes, this is what is needed. unfortunately, the imaginations of our "leaders" are far too small-- too small to see beyond the horizon of their next election. if we want to continue existing, they've gotta go.
  - cel1ne 10y ago
    > if we want to continue existing, they've gotta go. what do you mean by that?
    - cryoshon 10y ago
      we can't afford bureaucrats prevaricating and ultimately doing nothing on the issue of climate change; they have to be removed from power such that we can effect a future where we survive.
      - jsz0 10y ago
        Overthrowing democratically elected governments is not a carbon neutral process.
      - cel1ne 10y ago
        While I understand where that notion comes from, I don't see an answer. Generally the people who are in favour of "removing people from power" aren't the ones who like to take part in the arduous and complex task of rebuilding governance, which is the real issue. The overthrowing is easy. The making-it-better-afterwards is so hard, you should skip the overthrowing step and work at that problem right away. Sadly there are no fire-and-forget answers for issues like this.
edoceo 10y ago
Basic Income Guarantee?
- zdkl 10y ago
  That's a great point for basic income, but I don't think it wouldn't be the main factor, behind a variation on apathy like we currently have.

by sp527 10y ago

cryoshon 10y ago

step one is gaining political power, so find a campaign team and run on the platform of fixing climate change step one will take a good while then, step two: carbon tax at a rapacious rate. this will likely cause economic meltdown, which is unavoidable if we want to survive. step three is developing active methods of scrubbing our atmosphere of the shit we've polluted it with inventing that will take a while also anyways, let's get going.

taliesinb 10y ago

I feel the same way. As history has shown, when presented with an existential threat to the group, humans are often willing to drop their immediate plans and sign up to fight. Perhaps we're wired that way. Bring on UBI. And bring on a global 'war economy' to transition us to a zero carbon energy infrastructure.

cryoshon 10y ago
>And bring on a global 'war economy' to transition us to a zero carbon energy infrastructure. yes, this is what is needed. unfortunately, the imaginations of our "leaders" are far too small-- too small to see beyond the horizon of their next election. if we want to continue existing, they've gotta go.
- cel1ne 10y ago
  > if we want to continue existing, they've gotta go. what do you mean by that?
  - cryoshon 10y ago
    we can't afford bureaucrats prevaricating and ultimately doing nothing on the issue of climate change; they have to be removed from power such that we can effect a future where we survive.
    - jsz0 10y ago
      Overthrowing democratically elected governments is not a carbon neutral process.
    - cel1ne 10y ago
      While I understand where that notion comes from, I don't see an answer. Generally the people who are in favour of "removing people from power" aren't the ones who like to take part in the arduous and complex task of rebuilding governance, which is the real issue. The overthrowing is easy. The making-it-better-afterwards is so hard, you should skip the overthrowing step and work at that problem right away. Sadly there are no fire-and-forget answers for issues like this.

edoceo 10y ago

Basic Income Guarantee?

zdkl 10y ago
That's a great point for basic income, but I don't think it wouldn't be the main factor, behind a variation on apathy like we currently have.