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And Java IDEs are somehow comparable to Lisp Machines or Smalltalk IDEs? Slime is much more similar to those environments than Eclipse.
by wtetzner 10y ago
And Java IDEs are somehow comparable to Lisp Machines or Smalltalk IDEs? Slime is much more similar to those environments than Eclipse.
- twic 10y agoEclipse is derived from VisualAge for Java, which was derived from VisualAge, which was a Smalltalk IDE. There are a few remnants - the Java Browsing perspective [1] is basically the classic Smalltalk browser [2], which is still there in modern Smalltalk [3]. The only people i've ever seen using it are old Smalltalkers who have reluctantly come over to Java! [1] http://help.eclipse.org/neon/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.jdt.doc.user%2FgettingStarted%2Fqs-Browsing.htm&cp=1_1_0_14 http://help.eclipse.org/neon/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.... [2] http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/clanky/krivanek/smalltalk-80-6.png http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/clanky/krivanek/smalltalk-80-... [3] http://files.pharo.org/media/pharoCheatSheet.pdf http://files.pharo.org/media/pharoCheatSheet.pdf
- pjmlp 10y ago> The only people i've ever seen using it are old Smalltalkers who have reluctantly come over to Java! I also use it occasionally. Then again, I used Smalltalk on an university project before Java was announced to the world. :)
- coldtea 10y ago>And Java IDEs are somehow comparable to Lisp Machines or Smalltalk IDEs? Well, when it comes to editing Java, they're leaps and bounds above Emacs for the same task. If they offered the same flexibility and power for Lisp, Emacs/Slime would not even compare. (And Eclipse is a descendant of a once-popular Smalltalk IDE).