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> Restrictive policy responses hurt one group of people in an attempt to protect others. That's the definition of Pareto optimality
by tnecniv 10y ago
> Restrictive policy responses hurt one group of people in an attempt to protect others.
That's the definition of Pareto optimality
- brownbat 10y agoOk, pareto optimal describes a state, and I was abusing the term to apply it to a change of states. Definitely could be ambiguous: Are you moving towards pareto optimality, or starting at PO? When I've heard others commit similar abuses, they use "pareto optimal [change]" or "pareto efficient [change]" as synonyms for "pareto improvement." ie, moving towards pareto optimality. ie, a change that makes someone better and doesn't hurt anyone. But you're right, "pareto improvement" is really the proper term there.
- SilasX 10y agoI think the parent was referring to how "you're at a Pareto optimum when any change has to make someone worse off", and was applying that (incorrectly IMHO) to the situation you described where a regulation makes someone worse off. I say "incorrectly" because "some regulation R makes some group worse off" (as you were saying) does not imply "all reg changes would make someone worse off" (Pareto optimality).