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[edited for clarity]: Maybe the UK needs to rethink that "blame anyone but UK" part. The current Brexit discussion is too close to the Euro Sausage movie of Ye

[edited for clarity]: Maybe the UK needs to rethink that "blame anyone but UK" part. The current Brexit discussion is too close to the Euro Sausage movie of Yes, Minister: away from reality, but political maneuvering to put blame on non-UK entity for internal squabbles. The U.K. Politicians worked to outsource its politics to the EU. Back to free movement:I do not see reasons to rethink or restrict free movement; without it life will be more red tape and bureaucracy. I do not want free movement to be reconsidered.

tim333 10y ago
It's ironic that the EU did allow a transitional period before countries had to allow free movement, to prevent richer counties being flooded with Poles and the like and the UK turned that down so Polish people looking for work came there from 2004 whereas they couldn't work in Germany till 2011 for example. Now the brexiters tend to blame the EU for having too many Polish turning up when much of it was a UK government choice. Indeed mostly the choice of Tony Blair which he still defends: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666822/Tony-Blair-migrants-Poland-politics-eastern-Europe http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666822/Tony-Blair-migrants-...
- greendesk 10y ago
  A lot of things in politics and social interaction are ironic. I would note how the UK government did not want to raise steel tariffs to support Tata's Talbot plant. The reason was that it would increase prices for every consumer of steel. So the UK government blocked the EU's increase of steel tariffs. What was Boris Johnson's plan? I can't find the interview, but he shared he'd increase tariffs to support UK steel. These are the same tariffs UK's autonomous government blocked - the same tariffs that he 'outsourced the blame' to Brussels for the UK autonomous decision. Politics are hard for me to understand.
Chris2048 10y ago
I think a lot of Brits do distrust their politicians. Look how few established parties / politicians supported leave, when the majority of the country did support leave. Britain needs better representation, but there is little choice...

tim333 10y ago

It's ironic that the EU did allow a transitional period before countries had to allow free movement, to prevent richer counties being flooded with Poles and the like and the UK turned that down so Polish people looking for work came there from 2004 whereas they couldn't work in Germany till 2011 for example. Now the brexiters tend to blame the EU for having too many Polish turning up when much of it was a UK government choice. Indeed mostly the choice of Tony Blair which he still defends: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666822/Tony-Blair-migrants-Poland-politics-eastern-Europe http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666822/Tony-Blair-migrants-...

greendesk 10y ago
A lot of things in politics and social interaction are ironic. I would note how the UK government did not want to raise steel tariffs to support Tata's Talbot plant. The reason was that it would increase prices for every consumer of steel. So the UK government blocked the EU's increase of steel tariffs. What was Boris Johnson's plan? I can't find the interview, but he shared he'd increase tariffs to support UK steel. These are the same tariffs UK's autonomous government blocked - the same tariffs that he 'outsourced the blame' to Brussels for the UK autonomous decision. Politics are hard for me to understand.

Chris2048 10y ago

I think a lot of Brits do distrust their politicians. Look how few established parties / politicians supported leave, when the majority of the country did support leave. Britain needs better representation, but there is little choice...