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Sometimes when my friends and I go to a restaurant we've never been to, we look at the menu and change our minds and decide to go somewhere else. Can the UK do
by chrisbennet 10y ago
Sometimes when my friends and I go to a restaurant we've never been to, we look at the menu and change our minds and decide to go somewhere else.
Can the UK do something like that i.e. get the best terms possible from the EU and then put that to a vote?
- DanBC 10y ago>Can the UK do something like that i.e. get the best terms possible from the EU and then put that to a vote? They already did that. EU was (understandably) tired of UK wanting to get yet more special treatment, so didn't offer much to Cameron when he went round.
- Chris2048 10y ago> EU was (understandably) tired of UK wanting to get yet more special treatment Same negative characterisation the Greeks were given when they dared defy the EU. Can you give me any example of treatment wrt the EU and UK that was unfair?; The UK didn't seem to get as much out of the EU as many continental countries.
- tigershark 10y agoUk had the best possible deal in the EU. Now, as a best case, they will pay the same amount of money (like Norway and Switzerland), they will still have free circulation from EU people (like Norway and Switzerland) to have access to the EU market without all the benefits that they enjoyed earlier. And this is the best case, I can't imagine UK cut off from Europe with all the jobs in the City of London and Canary Wharf that will migrate somewhere else, along with all the other industries that are heavily disinvesting as of now.
- chrisbennet 10y agoI don't think they will have free circulation so I think that the "best case" will be worse (than Norway & Switzerland).
- Chris2048 10y ago"best possible" versus "good": It would still not be transparent.
- 3princip 10y agoSo, ignore the will of the people until they change their minds?
- wtbob 10y agoHey, that's the EU way — note how the EU Constitution was rejected in referenda, then accepted as the Treaty of Lisbon. If the people don't agree, elect a new people!
- chrisbennet 10y agoMore like, let them vote on what they are actually getting vs. whatever they were told they would get. I frequently agree to things in principle but I still read the contract before I sign. It seems like brexit is a pretty big decision to make witout knowing exactly what you're agreeing to but hey, that's just me.
- Nursie 10y agoWe knew what we were actually getting if we stayed - more of the same. The details of leaving are yet to be decided, but we have voted to do it, so we will.
- Silhouette 10y agoCan the UK do something like that i.e. get the best terms possible from the EU and then put that to a vote? That was already supposed to be the case. David Cameron, as then-Prime Minister, went to the EU with as strong a mandate to seek substantial change as any British leader was ever likely to receive. Because of the imminent referendum, he also had as strong a negotiating position as any British leader was ever likely to have. The deal he came back with was regarded as underwhelming by a large part of the population, with nothing fundamental really changing much in the long term. That probably convinced quite a few moderates that their first preference, reforming a less than ideal EU from within, was never going to happen, and we know the rest of the story.