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Am I the only one who almost didn't scroll down, thinking that the keyboard graphic was the thing to see?

by psyklic 17y ago

devinj 17y ago
No. It's a terrible webpage design. Am I the only one who still values things like http://www.useit.com/alertbox/scrolling-attention.html http://www.useit.com/alertbox/scrolling-attention.html ?
- armandososa 17y ago
  Yes. The "user's don't scroll" meme has been confirmed as a myth.
  - daleharvey 17y ago
    "confirmed" by who? every blog post I see titled "the fold is a myths" follows the same path where there author lays out a bunch of opinion of why they think it is "honestly people scroll fine, honest" every empirical study (like the one linked) seems to confirm that there is an obvious bias towards content above the fold. Dont think its particularly important here, I was pretty impressed by his design and not everyone needs to stick to strict usability constraints, but still handy to know what they are.
    - MartinCron 17y ago
      Anecdotal evidence, but evidence nonetheless: We did some testing of how people interact with icanhascheezburger.com and found that most people basically just scroll and then click the "next page" link at the bottom.
  - robryan 17y ago
    Especially in this situation I think, when you are somewhat motivated to click the link by title. I'd hope hacker news readers at least have the patience to scroll down if they don't get instant content gratification.
- viraptor 17y ago
  I'm not sure how well does this apply here. Why does it matter if someone pays attention to what's below the fold? Most of the post will always be below the fold (because it's longer than what a normal screen can handle), so if you either read it or not. The web pages 'useit' people show as examples are of a slightly different type (comments / products). The problem of this blog is that there's no vertical element which clearly shows that it's cut by the fold and you can find more content below. (someone argued that this is the general answer to most "below the fold criticism" but I couldn't find it right now)
- KirinDave 17y ago
  Yes. In fact, I embrace confusion here: http://kirindave.tumblr.com http://kirindave.tumblr.com (Go on a windows box, see how authentic the busy cursor looks!)
thwarted 17y ago
I thought the "I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want" graphic divider and the icons below it was signaling the bottom of the page.
- izaidi 17y ago
  I'm pretty relieved to discover I'm not the only one who misread that heading as a Spice Girls lyric.
BoppreH 17y ago
I didn't actually try to read anything because the orange/white/black layout makes my eye cry, so instead I just skimmed over to get an overview based on the design/layout/article organization alone. At first, I didn't know if the keyboard thing was a banner with the blog name, the article title, or an interactive flash component. Then I saw random screenshots scattered without any text under and things made even less sense. I started scrolling, but was greeted with four paragraphs of text laid on two columns, then a list of icons. Was this the end of the article and the icons are "share" buttons? No, wait, there's more paragraphs down there. But are continuing from which column? I mean, the list of icons could be an ad and I'm supposed to read both left columns first, and then the right ones. But it could an article divisor and I should read the top rows first. Then under it there's this three scenarios so crammed together that it takes some more fractions of second to realize they are different columns. See? I'm completely lost and didn't even start reading the article.

Am I the only one who almost didn't scroll down, thinking that the keyboard graphic was the thing to see?

by psyklic 17y ago

Am I the only one who almost didn't scroll down, thinking that the keyboard graphic was the thing to see?

No. It's a terrible webpage design. Am I the only one who still values things like http://www.useit.com/alertbox/scrolling-attention.html http://www.useit.com/alertbox/scrolling-attention.html ?

armandososa 17y ago
Yes. The "user's don't scroll" meme has been confirmed as a myth.
- daleharvey 17y ago
  "confirmed" by who? every blog post I see titled "the fold is a myths" follows the same path where there author lays out a bunch of opinion of why they think it is "honestly people scroll fine, honest" every empirical study (like the one linked) seems to confirm that there is an obvious bias towards content above the fold. Dont think its particularly important here, I was pretty impressed by his design and not everyone needs to stick to strict usability constraints, but still handy to know what they are.
  - MartinCron 17y ago
    Anecdotal evidence, but evidence nonetheless: We did some testing of how people interact with icanhascheezburger.com and found that most people basically just scroll and then click the "next page" link at the bottom.
- robryan 17y ago
  Especially in this situation I think, when you are somewhat motivated to click the link by title. I'd hope hacker news readers at least have the patience to scroll down if they don't get instant content gratification.
viraptor 17y ago
I'm not sure how well does this apply here. Why does it matter if someone pays attention to what's below the fold? Most of the post will always be below the fold (because it's longer than what a normal screen can handle), so if you either read it or not. The web pages 'useit' people show as examples are of a slightly different type (comments / products). The problem of this blog is that there's no vertical element which clearly shows that it's cut by the fold and you can find more content below. (someone argued that this is the general answer to most "below the fold criticism" but I couldn't find it right now)
KirinDave 17y ago
Yes. In fact, I embrace confusion here: http://kirindave.tumblr.com http://kirindave.tumblr.com (Go on a windows box, see how authentic the busy cursor looks!)

thwarted 17y ago

I thought the "I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want" graphic divider and the icons below it was signaling the bottom of the page.

izaidi 17y ago
I'm pretty relieved to discover I'm not the only one who misread that heading as a Spice Girls lyric.

BoppreH 17y ago

I didn't actually try to read anything because the orange/white/black layout makes my eye cry, so instead I just skimmed over to get an overview based on the design/layout/article organization alone. At first, I didn't know if the keyboard thing was a banner with the blog name, the article title, or an interactive flash component. Then I saw random screenshots scattered without any text under and things made even less sense. I started scrolling, but was greeted with four paragraphs of text laid on two columns, then a list of icons. Was this the end of the article and the icons are "share" buttons? No, wait, there's more paragraphs down there. But are continuing from which column? I mean, the list of icons could be an ad and I'm supposed to read both left columns first, and then the right ones. But it could an article divisor and I should read the top rows first. Then under it there's this three scenarios so crammed together that it takes some more fractions of second to realize they are different columns. See? I'm completely lost and didn't even start reading the article.