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I've gotten more than one response saying that, but I don't understand it. I would find it very enjoyable to read, play games, or sleep during a commute. There'

I've gotten more than one response saying that, but I don't understand it. I would find it very enjoyable to read, play games, or sleep during a commute. There's not that much I can't do in a car, that I can do on my couch. Much more enjoyable than spending hours focusing on the road. If you move further out of the city, you have much cheaper rent and taxes. Saving that much money would make it totally worth it to spend a few hours in a car everyday.

alkonaut 10y ago
Relaxing during a commute seems only marginally better than driving. What makes a difference is if you can work during the commute, so an entire 8h workday will be 2h commute and 6h work. In large metropolitan areas most people will end up spending what they can afford on housing, the choice is just between a 1h commute and large back yard and forest/beach within walking distance, versus the city with short commutes and shops/services within walking distance. You could live in a small flat in suburbia and save a ton, but it doesn't appear to be a popular choice.
- Johnny555 10y ago
  If your company is ok with you working for an hour or two on the way in to the office, then why not just work at home for an extra 90 minutes until after peak commute hours and zip into the office when traffic is light? Or better, just stay home entirely. Many companies still don't embrace full-time telecommuting (including tech companies like Apple and Google that have unlimited technology resources to make it work), so it's going to take a big paradigm shift for those companies to accept that workers driving in are actually "working" before they get to the office. My company doesn't offer shuttle buses, but of the people I do know that ride tech shuttles, while they do tend to work on the shuttle, it's usually just catching up on emails before they get to the office to do the "real work", and 2 hours on the bus is not equivalent to 2 hours in the office.
  - tamana 10y ago
    Doing email isn't more productive just because you do it in the same place you do "real work" . And techie work is mostly laptop work anyway, the bus is like the proverbial coffee shop.
    - alkonaut 10y ago
      I'm probably about only about 75% as efficient on a laptop as I am with a proper keyboard and large screen. I don't trust developers who work full time on a laptop...

alkonaut 10y ago

Relaxing during a commute seems only marginally better than driving. What makes a difference is if you can work during the commute, so an entire 8h workday will be 2h commute and 6h work. In large metropolitan areas most people will end up spending what they can afford on housing, the choice is just between a 1h commute and large back yard and forest/beach within walking distance, versus the city with short commutes and shops/services within walking distance. You could live in a small flat in suburbia and save a ton, but it doesn't appear to be a popular choice.

Johnny555 10y ago
If your company is ok with you working for an hour or two on the way in to the office, then why not just work at home for an extra 90 minutes until after peak commute hours and zip into the office when traffic is light? Or better, just stay home entirely. Many companies still don't embrace full-time telecommuting (including tech companies like Apple and Google that have unlimited technology resources to make it work), so it's going to take a big paradigm shift for those companies to accept that workers driving in are actually "working" before they get to the office. My company doesn't offer shuttle buses, but of the people I do know that ride tech shuttles, while they do tend to work on the shuttle, it's usually just catching up on emails before they get to the office to do the "real work", and 2 hours on the bus is not equivalent to 2 hours in the office.
- tamana 10y ago
  Doing email isn't more productive just because you do it in the same place you do "real work" . And techie work is mostly laptop work anyway, the bus is like the proverbial coffee shop.
  - alkonaut 10y ago
    I'm probably about only about 75% as efficient on a laptop as I am with a proper keyboard and large screen. I don't trust developers who work full time on a laptop...