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(edits for structure. disclaimer: these views are my own, not my employers' or the communities' or publishers') Publishers do provide a necessary service: fina
by gcr 10y ago
(edits for structure. disclaimer: these views are my own, not my employers' or the communities' or publishers')
Publishers do provide a necessary service: financial support for meetings. One significant problem with "Open Access Everywhere!" is that many conferences are a huge financial net loss even after the registration fees, so they need the publisher's financial support to actually hold a meeting. In this way, most of the smaller conferences that publishers support are subsidized by the heavy hitters. It would be a shame for those smaller meetings to disappear.
It's easier for top tier conferences to choose how to publish. For example, in computer vision, CVPR and ICCV (two top-tier conferences in the field) are currently co-sponsored by IEEE (the publisher) and the Computer Vision Foundation, which is run by well-respected members of the computer vision community. As part of this arrangement, papers from these conferences appear in IEEE Xplore as well as the CVF's open access website, free for everyone: http://www.cv-foundation.org/openaccess/menu.py http://www.cv-foundation.org/openaccess/menu.py Of course, only a very small number of heavy-hitting conferences can afford the kind of leverage that CVPR and ICCV needed to pull this arrangement off. In their unique situation, everyone (publishers and academics) benefit from the arrangement. That's not usually the case.
In an open-access-only "Ditch the Publishers!" world, it's unclear how we can continue to support smaller conferences. Not every field has big industry players that can sponsor the meeting, and not many students or advisors have enough grant money to afford increased registration fees.
- gkya 10y agoWhy do we pay taxes if they won't support such conferences?
- gcr 10y agoHow are taxes connected to conference support? Taxes are connected to the NSF/NIH, which are connected to academics via grants. Then what? Professors should just donate to the conferences they wish to support out of their grant money?
- foota 10y agoBut the academics pay the publishers, who then oh so generously put on these conferences. If they didn't pay the publishers in the first place there would be more money for attending conferences. That's eerily similar to a protection racket or something.
- gcr 10y agoShould conferences raise registration fees in such a system? Most students already can't attend conferences on their own because registration is so expensive. Making it even more so would prevent the students that could benefit the most form attending.
- foota 10y ago(I should know, I'm a student) One would like to think that there would then be more scholarship funds available to students interested in attending. Many conferences I'm aware of also offer reduced registration fees to students. In my experience the travel expenses tend to be the greater portion for students attending.
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