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Companies want to pay no taxes, but they want protection from the legal system infrastructure etc. that allows a company to be successful.

lossolo 10y ago
You can't have cake and eat cake. Without taxes there would be no system at all. It's a shame that small companies pay for this system and big corporations use this system but evade paying. No justice in this.
refurb 10y ago
There is so much inefficieny in gov't spending that your statement is meaningless. The biggest line items in the gov't budgets have nothing to do with the legal system or infrastructure.
- samfisher83 10y ago
  Medicare and social security pays for the millions of people who have help build this country. Yes the government might be inefficient. How many google, Facebook, and apples are coming out of Ireland or India?
- Frondo 10y ago
  Government, by definition, can be more efficient than any private entity because it never needs to produce a profit. Businesses need to be able to skim a little off for the owners. Government can provide services at cost, no mark up. If you're unhappy with the implementation of a specific program, like Medicare (which is, of course, more efficient than private health insurance in the US), let's talk about that. My pick is the military--very wasteful. We could fold 90% of that budget into university and health care and live in heaven on earth.
  - refurb 10y ago
    But profit creates an incentive for efficiency. Sell the same thing for 1% lower than your competitor and that goes right into your pocket. Our current gov't system provide very little incentive for efficient use of funds. I'm not arguing that all of these programs need to just disappear. I'm arguing a "race to the bottom" in terms of efficiency is a good thing, not a bad thing for gov'ts.
    - Frondo 10y ago
      I think the kind of constant oversight and worrying over how our tax dollars are spent creates an incentive for efficiency. And the ability to vote regularly on elected officials who guide our programs, that too creates an incentive for efficiency. Having seen what races to the bottom do in various other industries, I shudder to think of how government works would suffer under the same pressure. Not the kind of society I'd want to aspire to live in.

lossolo 10y ago

You can't have cake and eat cake. Without taxes there would be no system at all. It's a shame that small companies pay for this system and big corporations use this system but evade paying. No justice in this.

refurb 10y ago

There is so much inefficieny in gov't spending that your statement is meaningless. The biggest line items in the gov't budgets have nothing to do with the legal system or infrastructure.

samfisher83 10y ago
Medicare and social security pays for the millions of people who have help build this country. Yes the government might be inefficient. How many google, Facebook, and apples are coming out of Ireland or India?
Frondo 10y ago
Government, by definition, can be more efficient than any private entity because it never needs to produce a profit. Businesses need to be able to skim a little off for the owners. Government can provide services at cost, no mark up. If you're unhappy with the implementation of a specific program, like Medicare (which is, of course, more efficient than private health insurance in the US), let's talk about that. My pick is the military--very wasteful. We could fold 90% of that budget into university and health care and live in heaven on earth.
- refurb 10y ago
  But profit creates an incentive for efficiency. Sell the same thing for 1% lower than your competitor and that goes right into your pocket. Our current gov't system provide very little incentive for efficient use of funds. I'm not arguing that all of these programs need to just disappear. I'm arguing a "race to the bottom" in terms of efficiency is a good thing, not a bad thing for gov'ts.
  - Frondo 10y ago
    I think the kind of constant oversight and worrying over how our tax dollars are spent creates an incentive for efficiency. And the ability to vote regularly on elected officials who guide our programs, that too creates an incentive for efficiency. Having seen what races to the bottom do in various other industries, I shudder to think of how government works would suffer under the same pressure. Not the kind of society I'd want to aspire to live in.