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surely the one child policy will give women an upper hand in the coming 20 years? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#/media/File:China_Sex_By_

surely the one child policy will give women an upper hand in the coming 20 years? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#/media/File:China_Sex_By_Age_2010_census.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#/media/F...

chongli 10y ago
No, because even though there may be fewer young, attractive women due to the policy there are still hardly any wealthy, single men, comparatively speaking.
- hnchinatime 10y ago
  Right, because every woman is entitled to a wealthy man?
  - chongli 10y ago
    No more than every man being entitled to a gorgeous woman. For most people, political correctness flies right out the window when it comes to sexual attraction and mate selection.
Isofarro 10y ago
All things being equal, yes women would have the upper hand. But cultural norms warp things a little more. The cultural tendency is for a man to marry down, and a women marry up in social level terms. Which means there's a layer of women near the top who can't find a husband. Particularly in professional careers. And the lowest social rung of men have no women to marry down. This asymmetry means there's a band of powerful and successful women who don't normally find husbands. They become China's "leftover women", who have basically given up on the idea of marriage beyond the age of 27. One recent solution here is these women look abroad for suitable husbands. Despite being negged annually, the social stigma of not marrying up takes many options away from women.
- colmvp 10y ago
  I always find it strange how we make it seem like mate criteria is sacrosanct and beyond critique. I get that norms are strong. But in tech, we are constantly asked to question norms all the time and at times, deliberately counterbalance them. Surely we should also question social norms that inform our thinking in finding a mate? Especially if the person is having trouble finding someone suitable. If I were to say to you I had trouble finding a woman, I don't think people here would say, "hey you should look at dating someone overseas." I think people might suggest opening my scope to other ethnicities/body types/meeting opportunities.
- robocat 10y ago
  China's "leftover women: [the phrase] is part of an orchestrated state campaign to push “high-quality” women into marriage and having children. The phenomenon of “leftover women” was actually created by the Chinese government through a “very aggressive state media campaign.” The problem has been named and created, whereas the initial reality was different. http://xpatnation.com/in-the-new-china-educated-unmarried-leftover-women-are-still-stigmatized/ http://xpatnation.com/in-the-new-china-educated-unmarried-le...

chongli 10y ago

No, because even though there may be fewer young, attractive women due to the policy there are still hardly any wealthy, single men, comparatively speaking.

hnchinatime 10y ago
Right, because every woman is entitled to a wealthy man?
- chongli 10y ago
  No more than every man being entitled to a gorgeous woman. For most people, political correctness flies right out the window when it comes to sexual attraction and mate selection.

Isofarro 10y ago

All things being equal, yes women would have the upper hand. But cultural norms warp things a little more. The cultural tendency is for a man to marry down, and a women marry up in social level terms. Which means there's a layer of women near the top who can't find a husband. Particularly in professional careers. And the lowest social rung of men have no women to marry down. This asymmetry means there's a band of powerful and successful women who don't normally find husbands. They become China's "leftover women", who have basically given up on the idea of marriage beyond the age of 27. One recent solution here is these women look abroad for suitable husbands. Despite being negged annually, the social stigma of not marrying up takes many options away from women.

colmvp 10y ago
I always find it strange how we make it seem like mate criteria is sacrosanct and beyond critique. I get that norms are strong. But in tech, we are constantly asked to question norms all the time and at times, deliberately counterbalance them. Surely we should also question social norms that inform our thinking in finding a mate? Especially if the person is having trouble finding someone suitable. If I were to say to you I had trouble finding a woman, I don't think people here would say, "hey you should look at dating someone overseas." I think people might suggest opening my scope to other ethnicities/body types/meeting opportunities.
robocat 10y ago
China's "leftover women: [the phrase] is part of an orchestrated state campaign to push “high-quality” women into marriage and having children. The phenomenon of “leftover women” was actually created by the Chinese government through a “very aggressive state media campaign.” The problem has been named and created, whereas the initial reality was different. http://xpatnation.com/in-the-new-china-educated-unmarried-leftover-women-are-still-stigmatized/ http://xpatnation.com/in-the-new-china-educated-unmarried-le...