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Are you suggesting that Firefox should remove support for EME and legacy plugins like Flash? It seems like like that will achieve little more than pissing off

Are you suggesting that Firefox should remove support for EME and legacy plugins like Flash? It seems like like that will achieve little more than pissing off their users.

amq 10y ago
Firefox should at least ask users before enabling closed-source plugins, and give a simple way to enable/disable them like any other plugin. Or even better: distribute a clean browser and let users install things like Flash and EME as plugins.
- blowski 10y ago
  They do - if you don't like it, don't install it. Or even fork it. The default distribution is trying to provide the best experience for the majority of users and Flash is unfortunately necessary for that.
rye_bother 10y ago
Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) are something I've never actually seen used anywhere. Adobe Flash: why isn't it dead yet? Pocket is retarded, and it's icon is a non-sequiteur, with no clear purpose. It's a non-obvious add-on that found it's way into the default build probably due to funding. And chatting and video calls with a browser extension alway felt very Netscape Navigator to me.
- pix64 10y ago
  Netflix uses EME. Amazon Prime Video also I believe.
  - rye_bother 10y ago
    Ah, well, never part with tangible money for a virtual service. Especially one that refuses to inform you of the ingredients in their dog food. DRM is something worth the cost of ignoring and avoiding.
    - sp332 10y ago
      Netflix really does send me movies to watch though. Their selection is poor and they constantly remove content which is annoying, but that only lowers the value and doesn't set it to 0.
      - rye_bother 10y ago
        Really? I thought they totally discontinued the part of the service that lends optical discs via snail mail?
        sp332 10y ago
        Oh I meant streaming. However they spun off the disc part of the service for a very small amount of time before customer backlash pushed them to re-integrate. Netflix has been doing physical rentals for... ~8 years since then.

Are you suggesting that Firefox should remove support for EME and legacy plugins like Flash? It seems like like that will achieve little more than pissing off their users.

amq 10y ago

Firefox should at least ask users before enabling closed-source plugins, and give a simple way to enable/disable them like any other plugin. Or even better: distribute a clean browser and let users install things like Flash and EME as plugins.

blowski 10y ago
They do - if you don't like it, don't install it. Or even fork it. The default distribution is trying to provide the best experience for the majority of users and Flash is unfortunately necessary for that.

rye_bother 10y ago

Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) are something I've never actually seen used anywhere. Adobe Flash: why isn't it dead yet? Pocket is retarded, and it's icon is a non-sequiteur, with no clear purpose. It's a non-obvious add-on that found it's way into the default build probably due to funding. And chatting and video calls with a browser extension alway felt very Netscape Navigator to me.

pix64 10y ago
Netflix uses EME. Amazon Prime Video also I believe.
- rye_bother 10y ago
  Ah, well, never part with tangible money for a virtual service. Especially one that refuses to inform you of the ingredients in their dog food. DRM is something worth the cost of ignoring and avoiding.
  - sp332 10y ago
    Netflix really does send me movies to watch though. Their selection is poor and they constantly remove content which is annoying, but that only lowers the value and doesn't set it to 0.
    - rye_bother 10y ago
      Really? I thought they totally discontinued the part of the service that lends optical discs via snail mail?
      - sp332 10y ago
        Oh I meant streaming. However they spun off the disc part of the service for a very small amount of time before customer backlash pushed them to re-integrate. Netflix has been doing physical rentals for... ~8 years since then.