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> This is called Perfidy. It's a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy Maybe, but it looks like a bit of a gre
by mrec 10y ago
> This is called Perfidy. It's a war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy
Maybe, but it looks like a bit of a grey area. The WP article you link states that "Ruses of war are not prohibited", and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruse_de_guerre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruse_de_guerre includes this:
disguising a warship to appear to be a neutral merchant vessel, or a merchant vessel on your opponent's side, has traditionally been considered a legitimate ruse de guerre, provided the belligerent raises their own flag to break the deception, prior to firing their guns. This was called sailing under false colors. Both sides during the world wars used this tactic, most famously the Royal Navy's Q ships.
and also this:
German commando Otto Skorzeny led his troops wearing American uniforms to infiltrate American lines in Operation Greif during the Battle of the Bulge. Skorzeny later reported that he was told by experts in military law that wearing American uniforms was a defensible ruse de guerre, provided his troops took off their American uniforms, and put on German uniforms, prior to firing their weapons. Skorzeny was acquitted by a United States military court in Dachau in 1947, after his defense counsel argued that the "wearing of American uniforms was a legitimate ruse of war for espionage and sabotage" as described by The New York Times.
- krapp 10y agoIt seems like disguising your fleet as civilian cargo ships as a matter of policy "until the need arises" doesn't really count as a "ruse of war," or at least it shouldn't.
- atemerev 10y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfXUROw-1i8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfXUROw-1i8 — Russians are already building these.
- cgearhart 10y agoIt would be different to design our fleet to "sail under false colors" during peacetime; and the US would be reticent about launching a fleet of ships that make civilian ships into targets. We don't have to rely on ruse to project power -- even if our carriers are vulnerable.
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- vonmoltke 10y agoIf it is an American ship flying American colors it is not sailing under false colors. Also, civilian merchants of the belligerents have been legitimate targets of the enemy since the dawn of naval warfare. Whether or not they are armed is irrelevant.
- douche 10y agoMost American merchant vessels are not American-flagged... Liberia, I believe, is the most common flag for US shipping.